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Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

Going back to last winter 6 of Na Li's last 23 losses were after holding a match point/So basically 6 losses in the span of about a year and 2 months! Is that some sort of record?? I recall Jelena Jankovic going on a tear with like 3 in a row in the span of a month(Bartoli,Kleybanova and Shedova in 2010 though in the midst she won Cincy saving MP against Dementieva lol)....

Also side question but which player has overall blown the most matches after holding atleast one MP?

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Re: Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

Late last night or should I say early this morning 1 a.m. they showed the match (English commentary) Li was full marks for her 6-4 first set win, then she held a 4-0 lead in the second set which she blew..costly errors and Maria upped her game a bit. Score now 4-4 Li was serving with a 40-0 lead when the score was tied then, sent three balls long and committed 2 double faults..."gifted" Maria with the game. So Maria was able to close the next game and win the set, I always like to give credit where credit is due but in this case Li "blew it" and thats not unusual for her as she has a reputation of doing that many times in the past including against many higher ranked players. Her poor husband "cringes" in the stands as he sees the "wheels fall off". The last frame I didn't see but I assume by the score it was a even-steven battle with Maria winning in the tie-breaker. So Maria needs to "treat" Li Na to a big Chinese dinner!

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Re: Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

You should also count how many matches she blown doubles break or break points for doubles break...

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Re: Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

Jankovic's one was in 2009.

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Jankovic's one was in 2009.
She blew match points against Schiavone this year too.


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She blew match points against Schiavone this year too.
she also blew two against Martic in KL.

Li and Jaja are just neck-and-neck here.

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Re: Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

Pathetic for a reigning slam champion.
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Re: Blown MP record/stats ? Li has lost 6/23 after holding MP

When I first read the thread title I thought it meant she's only reached match point 23 times


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Pathetic for a reigning slam champion.
Serena held match point in 2 of her 4 losses in 2010 and was up a set and a break in the 3rd of her 4 losses

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Quite a weird stat. I don't usually think of her as a choker, and she seems pretty calm on court. Even when she berates her husband, it is not out of nervousness, just irritation. It is just that if her game goes off, it well and truly goes off, no compromises whatsoever.
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Serena held match point in 2 of her 4 losses in 2010 and was up a set and a break in the 3rd of her 4 losses
Rome SF against Jankovic, RG QF against Stosur...what's the third one?
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Rome SF against Jankovic, RG QF against Stosur...what's the third one?
Madrid vs Petrova.
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she also blew two against Martic in KL.

Li and Jaja are just neck-and-neck here.
And against Halep yesterday Well, she wants to be the best at something
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Li Na continues to disappoint! I think tennis fans expect Li Na to be a consistent champion. Li Na's breakthrough victory at the French Open is huge for tennis in Asia. An Asian woman FINALLY won a grand slam and that's a huge accomplishment. However, I think Li is suffering from self inflicted pressure and also pressure from the Chinese people and government. I don't think people in North America understand the Chinese want excellence. Being second place, third place, is not good enough.

Li Na has the weapons and tools to be a grand slam consistent contender but she is after all FEMALE. Most of the women players are just too emotional to become champions.

I don't see the men on the ATP Tour get so emotional like the women on the court. I remember when Li blew the match points against Clijsters at the Australian Open but this loss to Sharapova takes the cake! Li actually hit the ball right back to Clijsters when all she had to do was hit the open court.

I don't think Li Na's French Open victory was a fluke but I do believe tennis fans are expecting too much from this woman. She's a talented player but although she tries to act tough in the media she is VERY mentally fragile. I get the sense that Li Na doesn't really believe she should be beating top players like Clijsters and Sharapova on a consistent basis.

There was absolutely no reason for Li to lose that Italian Open final to Maria she was playing well 6-4 4-0 she even had a match point and still blew it.

I like Li Na but she is simply a perfect example of the FEMALE tennis player. Mary Carillo said it during the 2009 French Open women's final too many of the female tennis players are TOO EMOTIONAL TO BE CONSISTENT CHAMPIONS. The women get tight they yell, scream, or cry they can't handle the pressure. The few women who can handle pressure and keep their emotions in check of course are the best. The Williams Sisters, Clijsters, and Sharapova are the ONLY women on the WTA that aren't emotional basketcases. Jelena Jankovic, Ana Ivanovic, Dinara Safina, are pefect examples of emotionally unbalanced female tennis players. Li Na and Samantha Stosur are also emotional women.

Samantha Stosur is just like Li Na she had ONE big moment but she is also just too mentally fragile to become a consistent champion.
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