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Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Both were dominant in their respective years, but both won majors on surfaces that they are generally considered weak in. Which player's title win was more of a surprise: Hingis on Wimbledon grass or Serena on French clay?

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Both were not flukes. Just like any other slams they won, both Hingis and Serena beat 7 opponents to win.
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

neither was a fluke.

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Neither were flukes. Both were completely dominant at that point in their careers almost eliminating the surface disadvantage.

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Why don't you concentrate on your flop fave instead? She can't even fluke her way to a victory nowadays, let alone a slam.

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Neither were flukes. Hingis was so far above the field in '97 and in '02 Serena was clearly the best player in the world on clay, she lost 7-6 in the third in the finals of Berlin and won Rome beating Henin in the finals.

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

A fluke isn't the same as a surprise. Bad title.
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Serena's FO win was certainly not a fluke. However Hingis was lucky in the Wimbly final that Novotna got injured in the 2nd set.
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

It's hard to describe either as "flukes" exactly, considering both players were in such good form generally in those seasons that they were able to temporarily overcome their deficiencies on grass and clay respectively.

But if you're asking which is the least impressive, Serena's by a hair. She didn't really beat a single stellar claycourter en route to that title (maybe Pierce at a push, although she was in a deep slump at that time), whereas Hingis atleast beat one of the 90s' best grasscourters in her Wimbledon final.
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Conchita Martinez's Wimbly
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

No slam is a fluke

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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

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But if you're asking which is the least impressive, Serena's by a hair. She didn't really beat a single stellar claycourter en route to that title (maybe Pierce at a push, although she was in a deep slump at that time), whereas Hingis atleast beat one of the 90s' best grasscourters in her Wimbledon final.

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Conchita Martinez's Wimbly

Absolutely not. Conchita was a very good grass court player.
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Jankovic's Slam was the biggest fluke. Oh wait...
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Re: Hingis' 1997 Wimby v. Williams' 2002 FO : Which title was a greater fluke?

Neither were flukes.
Some slams won in the recent years by other players are more of a fluke.
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