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Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Wozniacki was number 1 for a long time and now that Radwanska secured top 5 spot I wonder is these days better to be a pusher and gaining points or a hard hitter whose form can go from hot to cold?Consistent in pushing the ball back and waiting for a mistake or aggressive hitting which means bigger margin for error?
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Pushing doesn't win slams
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Yes, even in Top Spin 4.

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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Pushers are not on WTA level but in small local clubs. It's pretty obvious from the examples of Wozniacki or Radwanska that hard hitting is not the only way of achieving success.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Absolutely.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

In past eras it was enough to win slams. Sanchez Vicario won 4 of them.


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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Arantxa would wipe the floor with these girls of today. She could shamelessly moonball, but Sanchez-Vicario was exceptional tactically and could play some very aggressive counterpunching.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Yes. W/UE ratios are negative most of the time. Push to win.

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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

caro is a pusher, aga is not. aga's style is far more intelligent and hingis-esque than that of a pusher. caro tries to get the ball in play and doesn't seem to care about angles, etc, whereas aga is all about angles, drop shots, lobs, etc. just cos she doesn't have much power to her game and doesn't go for big power-strokes doesn't mean that she doesn't go for winners. she just does it in a style which is more suited to her physical make-up. to me, aga and caro are players with very different styles.

(ok, if everyone is split into either 1/ pusher or 2/ ballbasher, then aga is a pusher, but there aren't 2 styles of play, there are several)

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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

First of all, why, why always this opposition only between pushing and hard hitting? Shades exist, ignoring them is really a lack of knowledge in terms of tennis.

To answer to the question, I think that "pushers" take advantage of a game their opponents can't control... And there are so many players nowadays who try to hit as hard as they can without real security in their shots, unfortunately. In my opinion, that's the main reason which explains how Wozniacki became No.1 : she was consistent and master of her game like nearly no one most of the time; she lost when she wasn't.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Julia lost today because Aga plays differently than Caro
She's not a pusher in any meaning. That's all.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

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Pushing doesn't win slams
But obviously can give you number 1 spot for 67 weeks...

It's 6X more than Venus Williams has ever been number 1,6 X more than Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario has ever been,4X more than Sharapova,3X more than Clijsters and many other great names in women's tennis such as Amelie Mauresmo,Jenifer Capriati,Tracy Austin...
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

Wozniacki stated not so long ago that she put more time on her fitness than her tennis. Tells it all really.
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

What is a pusher? Someone who hits the ball out less than 'big-hitters'?

In any other sport, someone who whacked the ball as hard as possible and made loads of mistakes would be regarded as completely crap - I don't get why accurate players get so much stick on this forum?
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Re: Is it good these days to be a "pusher"?

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Arantxa would wipe the floor with these girls of today. She could shamelessly moonball, but Sanchez-Vicario was exceptional tactically and could play some very aggressive counterpunching.
I pretty much agree with this. Tbh, I would put Sanchez Vicario in the same defensive-grinder bracket as Wozniacki in terms of strategy, but the difference is that ASV did it much better than Wozniacki could ever dream of -- she had better raw footspeed, better court sense, and most importantly, she had much more heart.
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