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Question did the anticipation of a Sisters final help kill attendance in L.A?

everyone expected Serena to face (and, in my case, DOWN) Venus in the finals in L.A. this was indeed the prediction of MOST of the tennis pundits. in fact, ESPN ran a previously-scheduled special on the Sisters as a lead-in to the final match -- so confident were they (and just about everyone else) that Serena would be facing her sister that evening.

but it was not to be...

however...did this foregone conclusion help kill off attendance in LA? were folks just going to show up for the expected final? did the anticipation of an all-Williams final help contribute to the relative lack of interest in the opening rounds?

in other words, was this possibly a factor in the paltry attendance figures?

i'm asking only bec no-one else has...

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Sorry, but the crowd definatley wasnt jumping for Serena-Clijsters. It serves them right,because no final is ever guarenteed with two certain players in it. Both players deserve a jumping crowd, no matter who they are in the finals.
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I think this is pure crap Tennischick...This has been debated to death, a new spin is not gonna make it a new debate, give the shit a rest (the sisters are home resting, we should too)...

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I thought that same thing throughout the tournament. It was sooooo surprising to "see" the lack of fans there. I even ventured to think if they had not committed to playing, would the turnout been higher. I hate to say it, but I think it did have an effect. The tennis isn't the best when they play, and I think people anticipated it.
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No, to answer your question. Also, the Williams BRING people to tennis events based on their talents and charisma. Matter of fact, attendance records have been broken and tv ratings are sky high when the Williams sisters play for the championship.

The fault lies with the organizers.
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YOU people kill me...ROTFFLMAO....Now the low attendance is Venus and Serena's fault? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE...OMG, will you ever stop?

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But it just wasn't a very good match, unlike Serena-Jen or the Seles-Davenport/Venus matches.

I was surprised Yahoo reports that the final attendance for the tournament was 57,000. Of course, they probably fudged the numbers a bit, but that's still way more than Munich's 36,500. I'm sure they fudged Munich's attendance, as well.
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Freethinker, please re-read my post before becoming obscene. i'm not saying that it is their fault. i'm only asking if the anticipation of a predictable outcome (or so everyone thought) was a factor. meaning ONE factor, not THE factor. check my Wertheim thread for discussion of OTHER possible factors. i'm only wondering if this should be added to the list.

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Obscene is this line of thought!
Damned if they do, damned if they dont.
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I posted the results of a poll on the Sanex WTA Website which showed the Williams-Williams finals as the most preferred finals. So if anything, it would have been anticipated. And besides, the highest attended match was the Venus-Kim match I believe, so you know it has nothing to do with the Williams.

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Mary : Monica : Svetlana : Sania : Jennifer : Amelie
Roddick : Grosjean : David : Djokovic
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Here's the view from out of the USA. I think it did.
All the articles a week prior to the event only
mentioned that another All Williams final was in
the works. It was a great tennis year for them,
and nobody is at their level said the articles. The
matches were only a formality till another All Williams
final. It was the only comments made by the
local new reporters when the event started. I would
have never known that Chanda or Daniela were even
the event. It was only about Williams, Jennifer, Lindsay,
and American tennis.

There was no pre-hype or anticipation over here in
Southeast Asia. In fact it wasn't EVEN shown on
ESPN Asia!!! I'll be getting it delayed next month
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If i understood you correctly, advertising was the problem.
We are desperately grasping for straws arent we ?

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i didn't see that poll WilliamsRulz so thanks for the info and thanks for the straight reply. and Greenout thanks for the non-US perspective. an all-Williams final was also the anticipated outcome where i am as well but Venus and Serena are much-loved in this country so the predictability was not a factor for the television viewing audience.

but i was more curious about whether it was one of the factors affecting attendance at the Staples Center.

servenbitchy, please please spare us both and put me on "ignore". it's kinda pathetic the way you hunt my posts down just to make yet another bitchy comment. is your life that empty

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I understand what youre getting at tennischick!

Williams fans shouldnt be offended by this thread, coz it shows how everyone knows the Williams Sisters dominated this year. I can imagine a sisters final would be highly anticipated in the US, but its not really the final that had the big attendance problem...

I believe that, because everyone expected a Williams-Williams final, nobody was intersted in a Henin-Dementieva or Hantuchova-Maleeva first round match! Everyone expected both Williamses to reach the final (which is perfectly normal as they dominated the whole year, and without Venus's injury it might have been so), so who cares what happens those first rounds?

So i think tennischick has a valid point: the anticipation of a Williams final did HELP (keyword is HELP!) kill attendance.

Certain Williamsfans should realise that not everything that connects the Williams Sisters to a certain negative point, means that people are bashing the sisters. They had an excellent year, and because of that, tennis reporters/fans have been taking Williams finals for granted. The Williamses have certainly brought name and fame to the tour, but at the same time, they have killed the suspense in the early rounds... noone can blame them for being so good (they deserve a lot of praise), but its just the way things are: everything has an up- and a down-side to it...

so people, there's no use for insulting tennischick for posting her opinion (this is a message board after all, and she didn't bash anyone)

its up to the other players now to try and reach the Williams-level...
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