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What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

I mean why is she so much trouble for the like of Venus, Zvonareva or even Kvitova. She has no working forehand on the surface, but she hits flat.

She took Serena to a third set as well at Eastbourne .

What is in her game that makes her so threatening on grass?
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

Accuracy in both forehand and backhand and also the sliced forehand which can disturb the players rhythm.

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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

Very interesting question.. Surprisingly formerly her favourite surface was clay - at least she had better results there.
As for grass, she has flat shots, a decent serve and good slices
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

She has a solid serve, moves well, has a good backhand and her forehand is not as much of a liability as on other surfaces (infact its a big weapon against some ).
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

She moves superbly on grass - she just efforlessly glides through the court, and takes advantage of that to retrieve very well considering her size - and her 1st serve has enough raw pace in it (often c. 180-185 km/h) to earn her a lot of cheap points even against decent returners. Also, her junk can give her opponents fits. I think it was moby who said that Pironkova plays the way Agatha wishes she could play in grass.

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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

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Very interesting question.. Surprisingly formerly her favourite surface was clay - at least she had better results there.
As for grass, she has flat shots, a decent serve and good slices
Clay . I definitely think that grass is her best surface. But I have no Idea how players such as Venus and Zvonareva struggle to beat her at Wimbledon .
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Clay . I definitely think that grass is her best surface. .
I meant "formerly". She had better results on clay before Wimbledon-2010
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

Venus doesn't struggle to beat her at Wimbledon, she gets systematically thrashed every time they play.

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^ I know . I never imagined Pironkova having 2 wins against Venus back to back at Wimbledon. Beating Venus at Wimbledon was so hard almost impossible from player non called Serena in the past, now this girl thrashes her twice in a row .
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

Pironkova is just a bad match-up for venus. She gives venus no pace to work with, and forces her to play bad (kinda like hingis in a way particularly, at the end of her career where she would rely on forcing opponents to make errors). Pironkova's also a tricky player. And as someone already mentioned, shes a great mover, her first serve has a good amount of pace, and she slices which is effective on the surface.
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This. And fleet and graceful movement. Pironkova slices so well, she makes me wonder why more of the tour doesn't learn to use the slice on grass.
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She moves superbly on grass - she just efforlessly glides through the court, and takes advantage of that to retrieve very well considering her size - and her 1st serve has enough raw pace in it (often c. 180-185 km/h) to earn her a lot of cheap points even against decent returners. Also, her junk can give her opponents fits. I think it was moby who said that Pironkova plays the way Agatha wishes she could play in grass.
Yup. Though WHY this is the case, I have no idea - she isn't a particularly exceptional mover on any other surface. Did she actually grow up playing on grass?

Also, her backhand while not that pacey is hit super-flat so reaps more rewards on grass than other surfaces, and as said her forehand slice can often atleast keep the point neutral on grass, whereas on other surfaces it just sits up and begs for her opponent to smack it away for a winner.
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Bitch hardly wins matches off grass. 1R loss after 1R loss. She's a very poor player except for two weeks in the year.

Off grass top players thrash her like this:
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Re: What makes Pironkova so good on grass?

She keeps the ball low and that forehand junk slice is wonderful... on grass.

I wouldnt really take that 3-set match with Serena seriously. It was Serena's first match back after a year off.
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