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If Pavs got fit and learned to serve

what would her ranking be? i personally think that pavs has more potential than wozniacki. she's gotten to the top 15 with what seems to be minimal off court training and through talent alone.
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Oh god, big what ifs, but I'd love to see this happen and see Baby at #1, even if only briefly.
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Re: If Pavs got fit and learned to serve

I agree, she would be the GOAT

Anyway, she actually tried to change her serve motion during the Baku tournament, but the result was over +20 Double faults

And I guess she doesn't really want to make the effort to get fitter

I think fitness would be more important than the serve, IMO a lot of WTA players nowadays can reach the top without a serve, but she won't get anywhere if she isn't in a better shape

So I hope she figures it out and tries to change it. She's the future of russian tennis, especially since all the other russians are going to kazakhstan
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Re: If Pavs got fit and learned to serve

As said, Nastia has loads of raw talent that has gotten her to the top 15, but she will not be able to take it to the next step without a proper work ethic. She has beautiful groundstrokes, which really exhibit her natural feel and timing, but this alone is not enough to win Grand Slams. I am really looking forward to seeing what kind of work she has put in / progress she has made during the offseason because 2012 could be her year. I just hope she is hungry enough (no pun intended) to fulfill her potential by trading in 'bakery' for the gym because she is quickly becoming my favorite 1990s girl.

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I might be deluded, but I'm really hoping / kind of expecting she's going to show up in Australia in GREAT shape. She really is potentially the second-best of Generation Suck behind Kvitova, but I think she's going to have to make a major push this season... it feels like she's been pretty static for about 18 months now.
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She's the only one of the 'younger generation' that I can see giving an challenging an inform Kvitova. She's got to decide she wants it & work for it though!



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If Pav ever gets in shape, she and Kvitova are gonna rule once the older elite retires. NOBODY else of generation suck has any hope whatsover of challenging her and Kvitova.

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Re: If Pavs got fit and learned to serve

I don't see the "talent" in Pavs like some posters do. I think she's "talented" in this era because she's among the few people who have naturally clean groundstrokes (to me her BH is a bit wonky with the unfinished follow through), but she has a low-A, usually B-level game of aggressiveness, and she's bit headcasey, true to her Russian roots.

Though I'd still support her; she has a good enough game to watch on TV


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I hope she can win a non-MM title

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I don't see the "talent" in Pavs like some posters do. I think she's "talented" in this era because she's among the few people who have naturally clean groundstrokes (to me her BH is a bit wonky with the unfinished follow through), but she has a low-A, usually B-level game of aggressiveness, and she's bit headcasey, true to her Russian roots.

Though I'd still support her; she has a good enough game to watch on TV
Yup.

She hits a nice ball, but she's erratic, slow, mentally weak, quite brainless, poor server and not even a particularly big ballstriker. Whenever she comes up against another big hitter, she almost always struggles to go blow for blow with them.

And even when she wasn't averaging 10DFs per match, her serve just isn't good enough for someone who plays as she does.
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Yup.

She hits a nice ball, but she's erratic, slow, mentally weak, quite brainless, poor server and not even a particularly big ballstriker. Whenever she comes up against another big hitter, she almost always struggles to go blow for blow with them.

And even when she wasn't averaging 10DFs per match, her serve just isn't good enough for someone who plays as she does.
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She's got kick-ass groundstrokes and she moves well for a big girl. She doesn't even need to work on her serve, if she gets into shape she's top 10 without a doubt.


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Yup.

She hits a nice ball, but she's erratic, slow, mentally weak, quite brainless, poor server and not even a particularly big ballstriker. Whenever she comes up against another big hitter, she almost always struggles to go blow for blow with them.

And even when she wasn't averaging 10DFs per match, her serve just isn't good enough for someone who plays as she does.
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the only thing going for her is her shots are slightly rounded like kim and li na's she she can get width on them and hit round the outside of the ball. however she lacks the pace on her shots and is just a horrible mover.

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Re: If Pavs got fit and learned to serve

She doesn't need to get fit
Look at Serena.

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