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Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

I am confused. Despite the 5-0 H-2-H, some people said that they don't see Clijsters as a tough match-up for Stosur. I think that she is, in fact, even more than anyone else, including Sharapova, Azarenka, Venus, Kvitova and Pennetta.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Clijsters is an excellent returner and she can force Stosur into backhand rallies, so she neutralises Sam's two biggest weapons. However, Kim can have trouble with her rhythm because of the top spin, being not tall enough to hit them down.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

No, not really, on clay I think Stosur would win but you can see Stosur losing pretty badly against Sharapova, Venus on clay they are really the worst matchup for her.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Kim is a horror match up for most players because she can always rely on her movement to bail her out (much like serena can rely on the serve). even if stosur plays well to hit through a player like kim needs great strokes from both sides (FH and BH) as kim can neutralise a rally she looks like she should lose more than any current player.

kim is one of the best at exploiting weaknesses in players and stosur still has several weaknesses.

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Any player who can competently pin Stosur into the BH corner will be a bad-match up. It's not a horror match-up necessarily, it's just the standard bad match-up for Stosur.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Its a bad matchup because of Kim's return and her BH CC which can pin stosur in the BH corner. Stosur gave Kim quite a scare last year at USO, and it would be interesting to watch them on clay when Stosur is in sort of form.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

From watching a couple of highlights videos between them, I'd say the following things make Kim difficult for Sam:
-she seems quite good at attacking slice backhands, meaning that Sam can't neutralise rallies by throwing up some "junk"
-she moves very quickly, making it difficult for Sam to get the ball away from her
-she has good end range strength, meaning that she can still hit reasonably aggressively when taken out wide
-she uses her BTL well to exploit Sam's tendency to float over to the Ad court to hit off-forehands
-she returns serve well, meaning Sam doesn't get control of the point from the get go
-she has a level of aggressive intensity that Sam hasn't quite matched whenever they've played

All these things aren't to say that Sam "can't" beat Kim - she probably should have done so at USO10 - but it will be a struggle.

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

If Stosur doesn´t throw mugfests like in that US Open in 2010, she should have no trouble with Kimberly. She did beat the current greatest player in the biggest stadium in the world, so beating Kimberly should be no dificult IF she playes like she did in that US Open final, her peak

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

She's not a bad match-up. They met 3 times, all in 2010, since Sam became a top player, and the matches were fairly close. Of course Kim won those matches - she's just a better player than Sam, especially in 2010 when she was arguably the best player on hard courts. Not to mention that Kim was in decent form in those matches too (she went on to win the title after each of those matches)

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Totally.
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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Kim would be used to the spin Sam generates due to her years competing against Amélie and also when Sam hits that hard top spin forhand she hits it primarily cross court playing it directly into Kim's big weapon, her forehand. Also the slice from Sam really isn't up to much especially given all Kim's years of playing Henin and dealing with her slice backhand so basically everything Sam has in her arsenal Kim's seen it and dealt with it before apart from Sam's kick serve which is extremely good. All said and done it depends on how they play on the day and as Sam prooved in the US Open she can beat anyone on her day.

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

she is a bad match up for whoever

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

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Its a bad matchup because of Kim's return and her BH CC which can pin stosur in the BH corner. Stosur gave Kim quite a scare last year at USO, and it would be interesting to watch them on clay when Stosur is in sort of form.
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RG 2011 Clijsters vs RG 2010 Stosur would be a thrashing
unrelated. clijsters shouldnt have played rg 2011. she was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy rusty.

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Re: Do you think that Clijsters is a bad match-up for Stosur?

Stosur should be a nightmare match up for the Belgian pusher - however she was too weak mentally in all of their matches and choked. I will favor the new, more mentally stronger Sam in their next match, I think.
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