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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 2011, 07:58 AM Thread Starter
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Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

They both have rather poor stats for slam winners (particularly record in finals and H2Hs) but which one do you think is better?

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Finals Records:

Fran: 4 titles in 15 finals (26.7%)
Sam: 3 titles in 13 finals (18.8%)

Career-High Ranks:

Fran: #4
Sam: #4


H2H against each other:

Fran 3 - 6 Stosur

Relevant H2Hs against #1s (ie. not ones inactive for years):

Fran:

Amelie Mauresmo: 5-4
Dinara Safina: 3-4
Jelena Jankovic: 2-4
Caroline Wozniacki: 2-4
Serena Williams: 2-4
Ana Ivanovic: 0-3
Maria Sharapova: 0-3
Venus Williams: 0-7
Kim Clijsters: 0-11
Justine Henin: 1-7

Overall: 15/71 (21.1%)

Sam:

Amelie Mauresmo: 3-5
Dinara Safina: 1-4
Jelena Jankovic: 2-4
Caroline Wozniacki: 4-3
Serena Williams: 3-4
Ana Ivanovic: 2-2
Maria Sharapova: 1-9
Venus Williams: 0-4
Kim Clijsters: 0-5
Justine Henin: 1-1

Overall: 17/41 (41.5%)

Grand Slam Records:

Australian Open: Fran: QF, Sam: 4R
French Open: Fran: W, Sam: F (bonus point to Fran for reaching another final)
Wimbledon: Fran: QF, Sam: 3R
US Open: Fran: QF, Sam: W

Career W/L:

Fran: 484-239 (59.5%)
Sam: 356-247 (59%)
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

Schiavone by far. She has better Career W/L and won the longest gs match ever
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

It was tough but I had to vote for Stosur. Yeah she's got a poor H2H against the best but it's actually better than I thought it would've been, plus her best win at a slam (Serena at USO) is more impressive than any of Fran's wins at a GS.
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

She'll probably win another slam, so Stosur.
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

Stosur. Beating Serena in straight sets in a slam final > beating Stosur in straight sets in her first slam final (even though it was also Schiavone's). The fact in Schiavone's best ever slam it was considered such an "upset" she beat Stosur in what is now only her 2nd best slam ever is telling too. Sam is also younger and many times more likely to win another major than Schiavone.
People werent totally shocked by Sam winning a slam either, a bit shocked to whoop Serena in straight sets in a hard court slam final yes, but not to win one at some point. Especialy since almost everyone expected her to win that French over Schiavone, although some did think that was her best opportunity passed. However when Schiavone did people thought it was one of the biggest flukes ever, although kudos to her for proving them wrong by a series of solid showings and nearly defending her title. Still clearly Stosur.

I actually like Schiavone more but lets be real here.
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

this poll is very close
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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

Fran. She beat Stosur in a final.. more titles, more finals, better winning % and QF's at all slams.

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Fran. She beat Stosur in a final.. more titles, more finals, better winning % and QF's at all slams.


It's Stosur for sure.
Sam was more impressive than Fran even in Fran's own slam.

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stosur she didnt give up on her career like schiavone did after winning french open
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Stosur probably will win FO eventually, so I voted her


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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

No "Hard to say" option?

As far as who is harder to beat when on, that would have to be Sam. Visually, Fran is much more enjoyable to watch when playing well(I've always hated Stosur's robotic game.) That said, voted Stosur because she's a nightmare for anyone 5'10-, even though Franny (surprisingly) has slightly better stats. Also, if one of them is going to win anything big from this point on, it'll be Shanksur

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Re: Who's a better singles slam champion - Schiavone or Stosur?

Fran has been a better player throughout most of their careers, its no surprise her stats are better.

I believe Sam will be able to add a few more significant achievements which will allow her to take over Fran before she retires.

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