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Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

.......or for that reason, Clijsters, Serena Williams, Seles, Capriati and many more.
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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

I don't see the point of this thread? What's the point in speculating something that is impossible to know? Can't the same be said for earlier players if there were never wooden rackets?

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I don't see the point of this thread? What's the point in speculating something that is impossible to know? Can't the same be said for earlier players if there were never wooden rackets?
For chrissakes....what is the point of anything? It's discussion forum!
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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

Discussions like this are so stupid. If Serena grew up with a wooden racquet she'd have been forced to focus on other things than what she grew up focusing on. Same for Maria and the others. How can we know how they'd cope with it. You can only adapt to the technology and environment that is available to you.
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For chrissakes....what is the point of anything? It's discussion forum!
Tell me how you could possibly know the answer to your question? Or better yet, if you're so keen on discussing things, answer my question. Would we have ever known players that played with wooden rackets if there were no wooden rackets? These questions are not quantitative in anyway, and thus IMO are pointless.

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Discussions like this are so stupid. If Serena grew up with a wooden racquet she'd have been forced to focus on other things than what she grew up focusing on. Same for Maria and the others. How can we know how they'd cope with it. You can only adapt to the technology and environment that is available to you.
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These questions are not quantitative in anyway, and thus IMO are pointless.
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? That there is no data to represent it or that the question does not ask for a measured response? nice vocabulary.

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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

Good Lord. You people act like wooden rackets are like something out of the stone age.

I grew up with a wooden racket, and the basic strokes are still the same. Really, you tend to be able to hit more shots now, rather than less because you don't have to use the classic stance (e.g. open stance is nearly impossible with wooden rackets and inside out shots are a lot trickier) but if you have a sweet stroke like TOB did prior to her shoulder going out of whack, you'd have a had a good stroke with a woodie. Indeed, the fact her opponents couldn't hit the ball as hard might have made it harder to expose her movement, and she might have been even more successful. (Or it might have made it harder for her to overpower her opponents, and left her exposed more often in longer rallies, we'll never know).

But really, going from wood to a composite isn't so inconceivable--the generation of the late '70s and '80s did it, many of the mid-career (Conners, McEnroe, Evert, Navritalova, etc.)

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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

Like others have said it's obvious everyone's game would've developed differently if the technology was limited. You don't see a game in Sharapova that looks adaptable to a wooden racket, but I'm sure if she pursued tennis with the limited technology she'd have a game that works.

With most of the elite players they have the body and the athleticism that you could see them be an elite status player in whatever they pursued. Look at Serena Williams she could probably be a top athlete in any sport she chose, and her impeccable skill all around would transcend any technology I'd imagine.
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For chrissakes....what is the point of anything? It's discussion forum!
Yes and he states the opinion that this is a silly discussion.
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.......or for that reason, Clijsters, Serena Williams, Seles, Capriati and many more.
The answer is, yes we would have heard of them, because, as was once said on this forum 'tennis is not the only sport where size and speed and strength don't matter.'

These are some of the strongest, fastest, most athletic women in the world. And they would be on any courts, with any style rackets. The same results? Not likely. Results worthy of tennis history? Yes.

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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

As others have said, all the players you listed have great speed, athleticism and hand-eye coordination. They'd make good tennis players using any technology. They would definitely have to play a different style though as points would be drawn out longer and first strike tennis would only be possible by rushing the net. Players like Davenport, Kvitova and Pierce would have had more problems. No matter how sweetly they struck the ball, the smaller racquet face would make it impossible for them to finish a point quickly and their lack of speed would quickly become a liability in the points. Topspinners like Schiavone and Stosur would also have to adjust as generating heavy topspin off small racquets is much harder. Stosur wouldn't be able to frame shots like she does now and still stay in the point. Conversely, quick players with good anticipation and high endurance like Jankovic, Azarenka and Myskina would get a bit of a boost. Still though, if the timing on their forehands is so tricky with today's forgiving racquets, their forehands would be complete error machines with wood rackets. Players with lazy footwork would never make the top 10 like they do today. The Williams sisters' innovation of always hitting offensive shots from defensive positions would never have happened. The likelihood of doing so successfully would become ridiculously small.

Volleying would be a huge component of the game and when players didn't volley, they would work the points instead of going for winners off every shot. It would be like the Zvonareva-Kirilenko matches we've seen recently. Neither player could hit the other off the court and both had to get creative to get the point finished. Slices on both sides would be huge parts of the game. Swing volleys would be dead.
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Re: Would we have ever heard the name Sharapova if wooden raquets were the norm?

Duh, of course, we would have. She would have been owning runways, shooting for Vogue Italia, storming through Paris, Milan, New York, London.
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Duh, of course, we would have. She would have been owning runways, shooting for Vogue Italia, storming through Paris, Milan, New York, London.
LOL. Masha is very pretty but she is not a model type. Too thick in the upper body and her face isn't symmetric/bizarre enough. If she didn't play tennis, she'd be studying or working in the family business somewhere between Sochi, Belarus and Moscow.
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LOL. Masha is very pretty but she is not a model type. Too thick in the upper body and her face isn't symmetric/bizarre enough. If she didn't play tennis, she'd be studying or working in the family business somewhere between Sochi, Belarus and Moscow.
She would not have developed such a strong upper body, hadn't she played tennis. Fashion is not about symmetric, not anymore at least. She has the face and she would have been an amaze runway diva
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