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Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

This is an interesting matchup tomorrow, I'm not aware of these two girls having played each other before or their head to head, but I'm intrigued because there will be a lot of tactics going on, more than normal I think.

For Stosur to win this match? I think she will need to get that kick serve up higher than ever to trouble Kvitova. Petra loves to take the ball on top of the bounce and crush it back, so Stosur will have to mix up her serve and serve to different areas on the court, especially on the 2nd serve, or she could be in real trouble.

Stosur will also have to flatten out the forehand a bit, I feel the topspin might play into Kvitova's hands, as she's taller and should be able to handle the higher bounces. Stosur will also have to be brave and come to the net, to keep Kvitova off the net too often.

For Kvitova to win this match? Petra must mix up her serve more, Stosur's backhand is not the best but she loves to run around the backhand and hit forehand returns (as Serena found out!!). The way to stop Stosur doing that is to hit the swinging serves into the body which will jam Stosur, and serving to Stosur's forehand, making her stretch. Luckily for Kvitova, she can do both serves with aplomb.

Stosur is not the best mover, so Kvitova must keep the pressure up in the usual way by hitting into the corners and attacking the net, this should be a successful tactic as Stosur doesn't hit great passing shots in general.

So this match is not only a battle of wills but a battle of tactics, which player will employ their preferred tactics better to win the match. I'm really looking forward to it, how do you see it going?
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How well does Kvitova attack slices?

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Re: Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

Interesting question. Best tactic is to play the slice game with Stosur until Petra gets a short ball. Mauresmo was often successful against Clijsters because Clijsters wouldn't slice the ball back, she would keep hitting up over the ball, then Mauresmo would hit topspin and Clijsters was off her rythm completely. Petra doesn't want that but she doesn't mind slicing, but not too often. So another interesting tactical battle to look forward to.
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Re: Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

The only way I can see Sam troubling Kvitty is with the slices. But her slices are not that good to start with.

Otherwise, this should be a straightforward story. Sam's kick serve goes into Kvitova's super mighty forehand return. Kvitova's serve is a nightmare on Stosur's backhand. Stosur can't deal with the flat, low skidding canon balls coming her way, on either wing.

I will be really surprised if this was anything but an easy 2 sets win. Could be one of the easiest matches of Kvitova so far.
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Re: Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

H2H

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I'd expect Kvitova to take this in straights but I thought that about Serena Williams in the USO final.

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Petra leads H2H 2-0 last match at AO this year. Petra won 7-6 6-3.
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Re: Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

Your tactic tips for Sam seems to be workable
Your tactic tips for Petra seems to be typical Petra's game

on that point I would predict Petra's game can't suit Sam on it basis and she will win in 2
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Stosur has been going against the odds so many times this year , beating Serena in a SLAM FINAL , yeah you heard it right, and Maria in YEC. If she beats Kvitova I just hope that she goes on and wins the whole thing and not lose to that arrogant girl called Azarenka .
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For Kvitova to win this match? Petra must mix up her serve more, Stosur's backhand is not the best but she loves to run around the backhand and hit forehand returns (as Serena found out!!). The way to stop Stosur doing that is to hit the swinging serves into the body which will jam Stosur, and serving to Stosur's forehand, making her stretch. Luckily for Kvitova, she can do both serves with aplomb.
You have more chance of seeing Elvis Presley land a UFO onto the back of the Loch Ness Monster than you have of seeing Stosur run round her backhand to hit a forehand return to a Kvitova slice serve out wide. Ain't gonna happen, even if she knows it's coming. She could never get anywhere close to position to hit a forehand return to that serve.

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Re: Sam Stosur v Petra Kvitova WTA semifinal, a tactical discussion

1.Kvitova hasn´t played a physical big server and hitter in weeks and has been lackadaisical in return games. She has had lapses of concentration against Zvonareva, Radwanska and Jankovic, she won´t be able to correct, if Stosur serves well.

2. What clearly works against Stosur with her own serve is the leftie stance. Eespecially on the ADV serve wide, which Stosur absolutely loves and Kvitova as a lefty can take it with the forehand. Kvitova also loves that stick in crosscourt backhand return from the deuce court.

3. On the return games obviously the same problem, especially on the ADV side again. Kvitova loves the lefty serve wide and can attack Stosur´s weaker backhand side. Although I feel Kvitova has struggled to go to the middle lately on serve, giving Stosur a chance to readjust her position and maybe go around her backhand.

4. Kvitova isn´t scared to go to the net and she can rush Stosur´s backhand with her crosscourt forehand.

5. On paper it doesn´t look good for Stosur. She´ll need to show extreme confidence to have the backhand working, mix the serve well, be very aggressive. Maybe even try some serve and volley, chip and charge of her own, and see how Kvitova reacts to being rushed. Maybe she can throw Kvitova off that way.

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yeah a tall, leftie big hitter is not a good match up for stosur at all. Can return the kick serve easily, and can serve slice out wide exposing stosurs backhand.

As much as I love Sam and am hopeful, I fully expect a quick 2-set win for Petra
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For Stosur to win, she's simply going to have to hope Petra comes out and plays a shocker and makes a boatload of errors - because if Petra is landing her shots in court, they're simply too heavy and pacey for Stosur to have time to set up for her forehand - and even if she does crack the rare monster topspin forehand, Kvitova's tall enough to handle the spin, a la Maria. Honestly it'll probably be an annihilation.
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For Stosur to win, she's simply going to have to hope Petra comes out and plays a shocker and makes a boatload of errors - because if Petra is landing her shots in court, they're simply too heavy and pacey for Stosur to have time to set up for her forehand - and even if she does crack the rare monster topspin forehand, Kvitova's tall enough to handle the spin, a la Maria. Honestly it'll probably be an annihilation.

I disagree with the shot assessment - Kvitova's shots are no heavier than those of Serena Williams. Her advantages in the match, as most in this thread have noted, are the leftie serve and enough height to negate some of the effect of Stosur's kick-serve.

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I disagree with the shot assessment - Kvitova's shots are no heavier than those of Serena Williams. Her advantages in the match, as most in this thread have noted, are the leftie serve and enough height to negate some of the effect of Stosur's kick-serve.
Kvitova's shots are much heavier, faster and flatter than the current Serena's She's long since adapted her game and started hitting most groundstrokes at ~70% pace.
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Kvitova's shots are much heavier, faster and flatter than the current Serena's She's long since adapted her game and started hitting most groundstrokes at ~70% pace.
You don't watch Kvitova much. Her shots arent as heavy in outdoor conditions besides grass.
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