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stupid reporters

this is truly pathetic. LA Times sends idiots with no knowledge at all to cover the event.

TJ Simmers is a proffessional idiot. LA Times didn't even bother to do a minimum research and of course came with stupid question like why Justine was wearing a watch , a real showing of intelligence and originality by the reporter.

He was surprised because Elena Dementieva is # 19 and was in the field when he was "told" that the best 16 players play

If that kind of assholes are sent to cover the event by LA Times, do you wonder ther isn't a good attendance level? people probably don't know there is a tennis tournaments, I guess LA Times doesn't know either.

This is a transcript of the article.

A Good Place for Those With Time on Hands
T.J. Simers

November 7 2002

I was sitting with Elgin Baylor in Staples Center on Wednesday afternoon, and if you had noticed Elgin Baylor sitting all by himself indoors on a wonderful sunny day watching two women playing tennis, you'd have gone out of your way, too, to make sure the Clippers' general manager was feeling all right.

I had been vaccinated before coming to the women's tournament, and because I know there have been cases of some strange side effects after getting a flu shot, I tried talking to Baylor in the event he had just gotten his and was now delirious and had no idea where he was.

"You know, I'd like to know why she's wearing a watch too," Baylor said after I pointed to the flashy wristwatch one of the tennis players was wearing. "I'll betcha it's because she's superstitious."

When I arrived at Staples Center, I couldn't think of any good reason to actually talk to a tennis player, but now I was on a mission to satisfy Baylor's curiosity. So I went to the Chick Hearn Press Room only to discover the tennis reporters were watching "Days of Our Lives."

That would explain why Sports Editor and tennis groupie Bill Dwyre knows all about Lexie Carver's being thrown in jail on kidnapping charges, and to be honest, I can't blame tennis reporters for watching anything but tennis.

*

JUSTINE HENIN, the wristwatch player, took her place on the podium so the tennis reporters could pay homage, and said, "It's hard to find the great motivation" to play when the arena is almost empty.

The tennis reporters seemed to appreciate that, but I found that odd, asking her, "Isn't the money [$765,000 to the winner] enough motivation" to play tennis for a couple of hours?

She came back with some double talk, so then I let her have it: "I don't watch a lot of tennis," I said. "Why do you wear a watch out there? Are you paid to wear a watch -- you know, an endorsement?"

"No," she said, and you would have thought I had asked her for Anna Kournikova's phone number with the dirty look I got.

When the news conference ended, I went to Henin but was stopped by an official who scolded me for being "too direct."

Then Henin said, "too aggressive," and that's when I noticed Baylor standing in the rear of the room, and I knew he was dying to know if he was right, so I asked her again about the watch and she crumbled. (Imagine what the sight of one of the Williams sisters is going to do to her).

"I have a contract with Rolex to wear a watch when I play," she admitted, and I was about to tell her she had just lied to everyone a few minutes earlier, but, perturbed, she cut off an interview with another Times reporter, made a face and walked out.

A short time later one of the tournament's public relations officials came to me and said, "Don't write that column."

I found that amusing, of course, because if I agreed not to write a column every time a public relations official or Dwyre told me not to write a column, I'd never have a column in the newspaper.

"I had no idea you were one of those columnists," the official said, "and you can quote me on that."

Now I was really confused. First I'm told not to write a column, and then I'm told to quote the official in the newspaper. I asked for a clarification and the official began crying and then scurried from the room.

*

THEY ADVERTISED that the top 16 women in tennis were going to be here, but when the first match started, the announcer introduced Elena Dementieva, "the 19th-ranked player in the world."

I found this odd and asked a tournament official, who directed me to Jeremy, who then sent me to Rob, who said he couldn't talk, but Jim could. By that time I forgot what I wanted to ask.

When the first match started, and then the second, I noticed both of them had something in common: No one was here to watch the women play. So I went to the front of Staples to see if the doors were still locked, and ran into the guy who was selling programs.

"Sold 10," he said, which makes him the best salesman I've ever met because the programs didn't include a schedule of who was playing.

*

MOST OF the concession stands were closed, although they had charged folks as much as $1,250 to attend all 10 sessions of this tournament, but I guess everyone realized no one would bother to show up to watch Henin play.

I counted 87 fans on one side of the arena and 93 on the other side and sat in section 116 so it could be said someone did. That left sections 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 117, 118, 104 and 107 empty. I think I would have noticed the "Justine Henin Fan Club" if it was there.

Take the smallest imaginable Sparks' crowd, subtract several thousand, and that's how many fans showed up for the evening session to watch Lindsay Davenport collapse against Monica Seles. I'd provide a more accurate count, but as of 10 p.m. officials were too embarrassed to announce the attendance, saying the doors were still open and somebody might walk in -- by accident.

The Staples' folks have a seven-year commitment for this tournament, which means if they want to draw a crowd, they better fix it so Kournikova gets an invite the next six years.

"There's a much prettier girl here than Kournikova," one official said. "Daniela Hantuchova will be playing [this afternoon]."

I think I have a dentist appointment -- as soon as I can call and make one.

*

T.J. Simers can be reached at t.j.simers@latimes.com
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what an idiot, and yah it is not surprising he is a male as well, LOL sometimes I feel they enjoy this kind of thing and take cheap shots and make them look intelligent

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You can tell he was really excited to draw this assignment.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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what an idiot, and yah it is not surprising he is a male as well, LOL sometimes I feel they enjoy this kind of thing and take cheap shots and make them look intelligent
the way to look intelligent for him would be to keep his mouth shut
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Yeah so many dumbasses anymore! What a complete joker!! For all we know this could have been a wedding present from her fiance'.

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Actually, I find his outlook quite amusing. It's probably the idea any non-fanatic (detract all WTAworld posters then) would get from attending the tournament.

We are obssesed, and will happily sit through any match, but we are 1% of the fans (IF!) - those 93 + 87 that guy counted - the WTA has to change something if they want to fill those big stadiums. He went there hoping to find something to critizise and with no interest whatsoever and found plenty to critizise and nothing to interest him. I have only seen the pictures of the stadium, but they do look pathetic.

Of course he gloats about making a few people uncomfortable as if that was something to be proud of, which I have no respect for... but the parts where he just describes what was going on are probably very close to a non-fan perspective.

We always complain about the fact that the experts don't get the game, they are uniformed, don't know their stats, aren't obssesed enough... well, wake up call, it's the non-experts that matter. It's the non-obssesed that will fill stadiums.


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Gallofa, I made heavy criticism about what happen in LA, but the way he proud himself of making fun of Justine, and downgrading women tennis as a whole without giving any intelligent reasoning disgust me.

I never mind people criticise women tennis, in the end it is not the players fault that WTA is making a fool of themselves, but when a writer decide to take a cheap shot without haveing a good knowledge, and research, that make him a bad writer

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Actually, I find his outlook quite amusing. It's probably the idea any non-fanatic (detract all WTAworld posters then) would get from attending the tournament.

We are obssesed, and will happily sit through any match, but we are 1% of the fans (IF!) - those 93 + 87 that guy counted - the WTA has to change something if they want to fill those big stadiums. He went there hoping to find something to critizise and with no interest whatsoever and found plenty to critizise and nothing to interest him. I have only seen the pictures of the stadium, but they do look pathetic.

Of course he gloats about making a few people uncomfortable as if that was something to be proud of, which I have no respect for... but the parts where he just describes what was going on are probably very close to a non-fan perspective.

We always complain about the fact that the experts don't get the game, they are uniformed, don't know their stats, aren't obssesed enough... well, wake up call, it's the non-experts that matter. It's the non-obssesed that will fill stadiums.
yes Gallofa, but precisely, the non-experts need the media to keep them informed, the reporters have to be knowledgeable and inform the public, not be one of them !!!

If the reporters are that dumb, the "casual fans" will never get into the sport, that idiot is a reporter from the second largest newspaper in the US, and has no clue whatsoever.

Fans pay to watch the event, that idiot is paid to be there.
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Precisely, Fingon. It is part of a sports reporters job to generate fan interest in sports.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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Yes, but the point is that he got in, saw the inside we are all dying to see, got the nice seats, didn't even have to pay for his ticket, probably got free food and drinks, talked to the players (whom we think so highly of) and he is someone who is into sports but he found the whole event shocking. If the WTA can't lure people like him to say something nice about the event how can they hope to lure someone who is deciding between attending a (insert sport) match or that WTA thing on staples centre?

Of course I am asuming he's a professional, I don't know his record, you might be able to tell me otherwise? but if he is, even if he's not interested in tennis, I think we could admit he's being objective and not intentionally malicious, if the even was a raging sucess and he hadn't mentioned it, I would dismiss his opinion, but the event, on the day he went was a failure and he just simply says so (minus all that stuff about Henin and making officials cry of course).


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Well, if its basketball it would have to be the Clippers, because the Lakers play at Staples.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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Anyone gonna send him an e-mail?
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Oh, I did.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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Here's the jolly good fellow

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Here is my message, and his response.


Me: You might want to suggest someone else next time your superiors need an
article on women's tennis. Perhaps someone who either appreciates the sport,
respects the women, or at least has a vague clue what is going on. Clearly
none of these things apply to you.

Him: maybe somebody like you who lacks a sense of humor, nah, don't think that's
going to happen.

You have to answer for Santino, Carlo.
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