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CBS Commentator "Understanding" Of ATP Retirement, But Usually NOT of WTA

During today men match,Jim Courier and Mary Carillo seem to eagerly show their "understanding" if Novak retires from the match due to fatigue.

At times, they seem to be even encouraging it and justifying it.

Mary Carillo has a reputation of being unfairly hard on women palyers in this department.

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Carillo and Courier are AWFUL. Perfect match for each other.
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They must suck up to world no1 or they might lose their job
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On the other hand, Petkovic put on a heroic performance yesterday, despite visible signs of physical limtations

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On the other hand, Petkovic put on a heroci performance yesterday, despite visible signs of physical limtations
Because fans paid big money.

Poor little Novak retires and it's all right.
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Because fans paid big money.

Poor little Novak retires and it's all right.
I hope Novak gives some of the money since he did not think deserve equaly pay at GS because they only play best of 3.

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During today men match,Jim Courier and Mary Carillo seem to eagerly show their "understanding" if Novak retires from the match due to fatigue.

At times, they seem to be even encouraging it and justifying it.

Mary Carillo has a reputation of being unfairly hard on women palyers in this department.
Didn't he retire with shoulder injury?
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Not even them
ESPN yesterday. Murray and Fish playing a shitty breakfest and they called the set "odd" and "funky". And if a woman is always grabbing at a nonexistent injury she's a drama queen, yet when Murray does it, it's part of his crabby British charm.

It's all part of the narrative. Whatever

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Because fans paid big money.

Poor little Novak retires and it's all right.
Of course it is. Players have to withdraw and retire. These things happen. It can rain all day long too. People know this when buying tickets. You are also not guaranteed to see a certain player playing if you buy the tickets long in advance, even if you have seen this player on a poster for the tournament. Since they have bodies they need to prioritize, they can not always be expected to complete the match or even play it.

Any further questions on that?


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Didn't he retire with shoulder injury?
Yes he did, but before that , they were enouraging(urging) him to do so.

And when he did, I did not hear the usual mantra ofr "feel sorry for the fans", or "this is bad for tennis".
In fact they supported it and gave the reason why it was good idea.

Good finding the same good will from these 2 when it comes to WTA players.

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People would get on Novak all the time for his fake injuries in the past

More bitching and whining from TF.

Plus, Novak has been playing a TON of matches this year because he's been winning so much and has been pretty good about not retiring.

This is in contrast to players like Azarenka.

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Maybe when you retire due to fatigue though, it's more understandable that people complain on the player and you could say that he could have at least finished the match etc... But yet, it wasn't gonna be a good finish anyway the match already sucked due to Djokovic's shortcomings


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Maybe when you retire due to fatigue though, it's more understandable that people complain on the player and you could say that he could have at least finished the match etc... But yet, it wasn't gonna be a good finish anyway the match already sucked due to Djokovic's shortcomings
THat is the "understanding" of men I was talking about.

Last week tournament, Tsonga retired during his match against Novak, to only come back this week and play.
This week also, I believe 1 or 2 men retired.

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Wow, for once people here actually have a legitimate complaint about double standards when comparing the men and women.

Djokovic should've stuck that match out. He wasn't exactly falling apart physically... he probably had a slight shoulder strain which would heal up with a few days' rest, and was struggling with the heat... OK, but it wouldn't have killed him to stick around a few more games and just let Murray have his victory. People here are right to say, if it was a woman who did it in the exact same situation, they'd get a ton of flak.

And incidentally, I'm a huge Nole fan and don't particularly care for Murray (despite being British).
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Not even them
ESPN yesterday. Murray and Fish playing a shitty breakfest and they called the set "odd" and "funky". And if a woman is always grabbing at a nonexistent injury she's a drama queen, yet when Murray does it, it's part of his crabby British charm.

It's all part of the narrative. Whatever
To add to that, last week when Monfils was being outplayed by Djokovic, he turned the match into a an exhibition like clownihs atmosphere.
But on

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