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View Poll Results: Should a #1 player win the final big event of the year?
Yes. A #1 must win a big event to finish off the year and confirm #1 rank. 2 7.69%
Yes. We need the best players together in one end-of-year event to sort the issue out of top player for that year. 3 11.54%
Yes, because if the part-time players are so good they should easily make the tournament and show their stuff. 2 7.69%
No. WTA is unique and doesn't need a special tournament to prove who's #1. 11 42.31%
No. The system is working, in some form anyway. 21 80.77%
No. Women's tennis is hard enough to watch or listen as is. Why more matches? 3 11.54%
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post #1 of 57 (permalink) Old Aug 18th, 2011, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

All this talk about slamless #1s is getting out of hand, imo. It's so bad I've actually defended the current points system and even Wozniacki for that matter. I feel filthy defending Wozniacki in any form, but it's not her fault the rest of the tour is inconsistent, injured, lazy, and downright bad.

An idea to bridge the slams are important as well as solve the #1 riddle would be to have a 16 player, single-elimination YEC to settle #1 for the year. Winner gets a nice check, shiny trophy, and #1 to their name until the end of the Australian Open. The NBA, college basketball, NFL, NASCAR, golf do something similar where jumping out to a huge points or standings lead gets nullified and there's a huge prize waiting at the end of year. In effect there would be five titles to really play for while the slams still maintain their special status. You can either pile on the tourneys just to make it or you can be a part-time player and still manage to make the cut.

What's your take?

EDIT: For those confused, the winner would be ranked year-end #1 and would get no additional points than what is already awarded. She keeps the #1 rank until the end of the Australian. After that, her * is removed and her rank will be where her point total indicates.

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

Then Shuai Peng wins the tournament and we are all happy.

- Caroline Wozniacki has never beaten a reigning world #1.
- Caroline Wozniacki has never beaten a top 5 player at a major.
- Caroline Wozniacki has not beaten a top 3 player en route to any of her 23 titles.
- Caroline Wozniacki has beaten two top 5 players en route to her 23 titles (#4 Zvonareva and #5 Schiavone)

-Her fans think she had very bad luck with her Grand Slam and Regular Tour draws.
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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

it would be pointless. Players like Sharapova, Serena, Venus, Kim...won't give a fuck about number 1 ranking. It's for tournament whore like Pushniacki. She can only keep the number 1 ranking by playing shitload of tournaments

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

A big no no....

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

No, number 1 ranking is about consitency.

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

No, consistency needs to be rewarded by the ranking, otherwise none of the top players will end up playing any of the non-slam tournaments.

Everybody's already complaining about the amount of retirements etc. Putting less emphasis on consistency would make these problems even worse.
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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

Poll? Where is it? Could we have some poll, please?!
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God that is so stupid.

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

So NASCAR is stupid to have the Chase Cup determine the #1 racer? NBA, NFL having playoffs to determine the true champ is bad?

Yet, it's perfectly okay to have a situation where the points threshold to be #1 keeps declining while the "best" players spend half the year off nursing injuries and working on clothing lines? The rest of the top 15 is a wreck and the quality of play is just downright ugh. A perfect storm for Wozniacki being #1. Unless your beloved Serena and Clijsters find the magic pill for getting healthy and giving a damn about something other than themselves, Kvitova polishes up a few rough edges quickly, Li and Schiavone find the fountain of youth, Azarenka finds courage heart and a brain, some of the big babes cut down the carbs, and a cure has been discovered for headcase syndrome, enjoy the current tour setup.

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

...wouldn't that be the WTA Championships...since it's the 8 best players in the world, and the one who wins is supposed to be the best out of the top 8?

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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

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So NASCAR is stupid to have the Chase Cup determine the #1 racer? NBA, NFL having playoffs to determine the true champ is bad?

Yet, it's perfectly okay to have a situation where the points threshold to be #1 keeps declining while the "best" players spend half the year off nursing injuries and working on clothing lines? The rest of the top 15 is a wreck and the quality of play is just downright ugh. A perfect storm for Wozniacki being #1. Unless your beloved Serena and Clijsters find the magic pill for getting healthy abnd giving a damn about something other than themselves, Kvitova polishes up a few rough edges quickly, Li and Schiavone find the fountain of youth, Azarenka finds courage heart and a brain, some of the big babes cut down the carbs, and a cure has been discovered for headcase syndrome, enjoy the current tour setup.
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Re: How about an end-of-year tournament to determine #1?

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So NASCAR is stupid to have the Chase Cup determine the #1 racer? NBA, NFL having playoffs to determine the true champ is bad?
Actually, there are lots of people who criticize NASCAR's Chase system (especially those who can't handle my man Jimmie ) because it does not reward consistency enough... which is why the current WTA ranking system is fine the way it is because it does just that.
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