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Why is the kick serve MIA in the women's game????

I was wondering this, why almost no women have a second serve kick serve The only players I've seen who can consistently hit a kick serve are Sam Stosur and Johanna Larsson!!! Serena can hit one but not consistently. Back in the days, Sandrine Testud had a mean kick serve also. But is it a physical thing? a mental thing? lack of practice?

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I thing it is. It supposedly puts a grater strain on your body. Here is some explanation:

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For sure the girls are physically strong enough for doing it consistently and good. But maybe when they were younger they weren't, so they never really practised kick serve. That would make it harder to 'pick up' when your older. I think it comes down to lack of practise. Girls tend to be weaker in the service department and stronger in the groundstroke department.


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I thing it is. It supposedly puts a grater strain on your body. Here is some explanation:

Great vid (BTW it will help my game...) That would explain why Stosur who has greater upper body strength than most women on tour can kick serve so effectively.

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For sure the girls are physically strong enough for doing it consistently and good. But maybe when they were younger they weren't, so they never really practised kick serve. That would make it harder to 'pick up' when your older. I think it comes down to lack of practise. Girls tend to be weaker in the service department and stronger in the groundstroke department.
They's strong enough to do it, but most of their kick serves would probably be powderpuffs even worse than what they do now. There's a reason why the best kick serves in the game are from two of the strongest players in the world, and Goerges too. Larsson's kick serve is okay but not great and Polona's is much smoother topspin rather than having vigorous spin on it.
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Safina, Stosur and Serena all have kick second serves.
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remember the ' 07 miami final..it was all kick serve by Serena...Juju had to hit some balls almost above her head sometimes.

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Slice is trickier than light spin.

You gotta be able to make it BOUNCE and few players can execute that effective down and up.

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I was wondering this, why almost no women have a second serve kick serve The only players I've seen who can consistently hit a kick serve are Sam Stosur and Johanna Larsson!!! Serena can hit one but not consistently. Back in the days, Sandrine Testud had a mean kick serve also. But is it a physical thing? a mental thing? lack of practice?
Johanna Jenny is peculiar in that she doesn't hit flat serves, only kick or slice, and will kick her serve in even on 1st serves.

Best kicker before Stosur's second career (so to speak) was probably Molik's.

As for Polonia Hertzog, mentioned by other TFers, her kick serve is devastating due to her being so fucking awesome at everything, from her BH to her hairstyle.

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They should ask Stosur for help

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In the Toronto final yesterday, ESPN put up a graphic showing how Serena's kick serve was actually higher than Sam's.
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Re: Why is the kick serve MIA in the women's game????

Serena can most definitely hit a top spin serve and does so most of the time on the ad court 2nd serve.

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