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Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

Also, vice versa with Kim and Venus, whose games obviously are better suited to the USO than the AO?
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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

Whatever the case is, AO is a lot more respectable now than it was in Court's time.
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Whatever the case is, AO is a lot more respectable now than it was in Court's time.
Poor baby. Margaret has 194 career titles, 24 slams and 11 AOs. Serena has 37 career titles, 13 slams and 5 AOs. Please try to deal with it.
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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

Serena has always done well on mid to slower paced hard courts, like the AO and Miami for example.
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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

okay i sometimes question if you even watch tennis

Back in 02-03 the US hard-courts were Serena's best surface as they were very very fast - very suitable for Serena's all out attack game. Her footwork and footspeed was spectacular during this point in time and she could return shots with much more interest, which is why the US courts suit Kim's and Venus's game as well.

Now her game is more conservative, she uses more topspin and point construction than she did back then when she just overwhelmed her opponents with simply brutal flat ball striking - the slower courts in Australia suit her better as they are the perfect medium fast pace which allow her to set up the point. She can also afford to have sloppier movement than usual. The surface does not neutralize her serve like a clay court would.

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better question: how many of your posts are NOT about a ws

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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

If you look at the distrubition of Serena's majors, there isn't much of a difference..only weak surface is clay.

She's won the other 3, at least 3 times each and has reached the finals at least 4 times. Pretty even, no?!
Recently the Oz open seems to suit her game a tad better than the u.s. open, but to say that she can't play on american hardcourts is foolish.

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Serena has always done well on mid to slower paced hard courts, like the AO and Miami for example.
Exactly. Unlike Venus, Serena prefers a ball to sit up, above waist level whereas Venus needs a ball nice and low.

Rebound ace was right up Serena's alley. The US Open is actually probably too fast given Serena's age and movement. She of course can win on any surface on any day. Had it not been for Kuznetsova and Stosur in 09 and 10, Serena would have won the French, no doubt. The ball sits up a bit too much on the clay for Serena and it exposes her movement.

I genuinely believe Serena is going to win the US Open in 2011. Give the girl an obstacle and she'll take it down.
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okay i sometimes question if you even watch tennis

Back in 02-03 the US hard-courts were Serena's best surface as they were very very fast - very suitable for Serena's all out attack game. Her footwork and footspeed was spectacular during this point in time and she could return shots with much more interest, which is why the US courts suit Kim's and Venus's game as well.

Now her game is more conservative, she uses more topspin and point construction than she did back then when she just overwhelmed her opponents with simply brutal flat ball striking - the slower courts in Australia suit her better as they are the perfect medium fast pace which allow her to set up the point. She can also afford to have sloppier movement than usual. The surface does not neutralize her serve like a clay court would.
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Serena has always done well on mid to slower paced hard courts, like the AO and Miami for example.
This. Fast hardcourts dont suit her game as well as medium paced/slow hardcourts do.


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If you look at the distrubition of Serena's majors, there isn't much of a difference..only weak surface is clay.

She's won the other 3, at least 3 times each and has reached the finals at least 4 times. Pretty even, no?!
Recently the Oz open seems to suit her game a tad better than the u.s. open, but to say that she can't play on american hardcourts is foolish.
Who said that she can't play on American hard courts?

It is just that Serena is more beatable at the USO than AO.
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Exactly. Unlike Venus, Serena prefers a ball to sit up, above waist level whereas Venus needs a ball nice and low.

Rebound ace was right up Serena's alley. The US Open is actually probably too fast given Serena's age and movement. She of course can win on any surface on any day. Had it not been for Kuznetsova and Stosur in 09 and 10, Serena would have won the French, no doubt. The ball sits up a bit too much on the clay for Serena and it exposes her movement.

I genuinely believe Serena is going to win the US Open in 2011. Give the girl an obstacle and she'll take it down.
But the switch from Rebound Ace to Plexicushion seems to have made no difference. She's won 2/3 of the AOs that she's played on Plexicushion.

I don't think that she'll win the USO this year. I can't see Kim being beaten there.
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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

Other than the height in bounce, there is no little to no difference from rebound ace to plexicushion. The speed is right up Serena's alley.

You can think what you want.
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Re: Why does the AO suit Serena's game more than the USO?

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Other than the height in bounce, there is no little to no difference from rebound ace to plexicushion. The speed is right up Serena's alley.

You can think what you want.
I still wonder why they bothered changing it. I can see no difference.

Yes, as can you. We will see in a couple of months.
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