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Do you think that Kvitova is really taking power tennis to the next level?

Tracy Austin remarked that Kvitova was taking the ball-striking in women's tennis to the next level during the women's final.

With that thought in mind, I watched the final again with my eyes peeled for some revolutionary shots.

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Re: Do you think that Kvitova is really taking power tennis to the next level?

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In the middle of the first set, they showed that the average speed of Sharapova's ground-strokes were 68mph or so, while Kvitova's was in the high 70s. As soon as I saw that, hope started fading away pretty rapidly.

Then again, I'm not good at estimating speed, so maybe it was a one off thing, or maybe Sharapova just didn't get a chance to do anything.

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Hardly. The Williams at their peck, heck even not at their peak, did it better, particularly when factoring in the serve.
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She doesn't seem to hit harder than the other big hitters. I think people like Tracey see Maria as the biggest hitter and when someone out plays her it must be because they hit harder.

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Here is the previous level Tracy is talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUm-f...eature=related
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Here is the previous level Tracy is talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUm-f...eature=related


I don't think she's doing anything revolutionary. There hasn't really been an elite lefty since Seles (and does she really count?) so maybe that makes it seem like she's hitting the ball a little bit differently than everybody else. I guess because I was a Schnyder fan, it's weird to see a lefty that absolutely pounds the ball hard and flat since Patty did absolutely none of that. Both styles are pleasing to the eye though.

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And to think that Génie is 0-4 against this Kvitova player. Sometimes tennis is just not logical at all.
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Re: Do you think that Kvitova is really taking power tennis to the next level?

I dont think she's quite that impressive.

Some seem to disagree though.
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There hasn't really been an elite lefty since Seles (and does she really count?)
Why would a 9 time GS champ not count?

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i would say no
but isn't it exciting if we can witness her improvement in the future? she's only 21 and think about how much she has improved in the previous months, we may witness something really big here
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Why would a 9 time GS champ not count?
I mean does she really count as a lefty? Obviously she counts as an elite player. I tend to put Seles in a category of her own due to her double-handedness.

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She doesn't seem to hit harder than the other big hitters. I think people like Tracey see Maria as the biggest hitter and when someone out plays her it must be because they hit harder.
Maria doesn't even hit that hard. Her groundstrokes were always more about laserlike precision and accuracy than raw power.
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I mean does she really count as a lefty? Obviously she counts as an elite player. I tend to put Seles in a category of her own due to her double-handedness.
I would def count her as a lefty. One of the major advantages of being a lefty is the serve.


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Maria doesn't even hit that hard. Her groundstrokes were always more about laserlike precision and accuracy than raw power.
It sure looks like she does. Must be all that screaming that's got me all confused.

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I would def count her as a lefty. One of the major advantages of being a lefty is the serve.
Definitely. Seles did have the advantage of the lefty serve as Kvitova also has right now, but I also agree with the poster you quoted because Seles obviously did not have the free swinging forehand that gives Kvitova more power with less effort. Seles did not have the groundstrokes of your typical lefty per say.

On topic though, uhhhh, peak WS revolutionized power tennis... Kvitova however is capable of getting close to that level of tennis. I think she needs to work on fitness and getting more variety and consistency of the serve.

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She doesn't seem to hit harder than the other big hitters. I think people like Tracey see Maria as the biggest hitter and when someone out plays her it must be because they hit harder.
That's the Beauty Petra has, easy power. She doesn't swing hard, grunt or take wild swings, but she'll still pound her ground strokes 10-13mph more than your favorite ball basher during a match, and be able to hit a frozen rope winner from anywhere on or off the court from either wing in a blink.

Mary Joe Fernandez said "she hits the ball harder than anyone I've ever seen". Lindsay Davenport said " Stunning. I can see why people compare her to me, she's one of the best ball strikers I've ever seen". And she did have the highest ground stroke mph avg throughout the entire Wimby tournament according to their statistics. Need I say more?

To be quite honest, I haven't seen anyone be able to hit winners like she does from anywhere on the court from either wing. So from that perspective I can see her ushering in a new form of power tennis (at least in Tracy's mind) along with her aggression, net play, slice backhand, tricky serves and drop shots.

As a matter of fact I and many people who became Kvitova fans, became fans cause we've never seen people do what she does on the tennis court as consistently as she does, and that's hit winners from any position from anywhere on the court. She has great power, technique and execution. That should be clear to see, and one of the things that separates her from the Masha's and everyone else on tour.

But who care's what Tracy Austin thinks anyway?

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