Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time.... - TennisForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 136 (permalink) Old May 5th, 2011, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
MakarovaFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,587
                     
Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

This isnt a bashing thread nor a stan thread but honestly looking back,does anybody else think that these past few years should have been "prime" Maria's time to really stand out and dominate the sport?? Henin gone,Mauresmo gone,Serena and Kim part time players and the tour being full on mental midgets and random streak players.

Back when Maria burst on the tour she was a very consistent top player but more often than not one of the Henin/Mauresmo/Clijsters group would always block her(Slam SFs, number 1 rank etc). And then when she finally figured those players out Serena was back as well as a few new faces.It just seems to me back when she was a teenager,though a superb player, she always had the more experienced, faster and versatile triple threat in front of her but once those players were gone then it seemed it would have been her unrivaled time to shine. But given her 2008 start/form and the state of womens tennis recently how many people would have predicted come 2011 Maria would only have 3 slams??? Honestly speaking if Maria were to find her form of old(which before haters chirp in,she was very close to last summer) i really think she would be dominating the tour(and unlike Woz,the majors as well).

I know injuries,and time away from the tour are unfortunate and have stopped reasonably some of the best potential era for players(Seles in 93-95, S&V in 03/04) but its also part of the sport.

~Elena Makarova~goddess of tennis
New Breed: Maria,Anastasia Myskina,Nicole,Ana,Tatiana Golovin,Jelena J,Iveta Benesova,Olga Poutchkova,Camille Pin,Maria Kirilenko,Alonya Bondarenko,Meilen Tu,Sania Mirza,Rezai,Ashley H,Tataina Poutchek,Sandra Kloesel,Klara Z,Mirjana Lucic,Dominka Cibulkova,Emauelle Gagliardi,Jelena Kostanic,Iroda,Martina Sucha,Raluca Olaru,Kveta,Marta D,Bethanie,Bychkova

Lilia Osterloh,Viktoriya Kutuzova,Yurika Sema,Anastasia Pivavrova(?),Stanislava Hrozenska,Marie-Eve,Zsofia,Angelika Roesch,Sunitha Rao,Anne Keothavang,Olivia Sanchez,Angela Haynes,Alex S,Jelena Dokic,Rosana De Los Rios,Kristina Brandi,Eva Fislova,Lindsay Lee

Elena Makarova,Anna K, Capriati,Lindsay,Henrieta Nagyova,Anca Barna,Petra Mandula,Jana Kandarr,
MakarovaFan is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 136 (permalink) Old May 5th, 2011, 11:26 PM
Senior Member
 
Nicolás89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 19,978
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Now that I think about it, yes this was supposed to be Maria's time but a better blonde came out, so.....

LEGEND. Nicole. Caro. Aga. Sloane. Taylor.
Nicolás89 is offline  
post #3 of 136 (permalink) Old May 5th, 2011, 11:48 PM
`
 
Stonerpova's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 7,759
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

After her 2008 start I figured Maria would win 2 or 3 majors that year and take over #1. It's gonna take her a while longer to get back to best, but she's only 24, and who knows, the age of Maria may still be in the cards. I think if she can regain consistency on her serve and the pop on her groundstrokes these disappointments will all be worth it, because I feel they've made Maria a better competitor.


http://imageshack.us/a/img534/5492/maria1y.pnghttp://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4647/xk7s.png
Sharapova Ivanovic Jankovic Pavs Wozniacki Wickmayer Goerges Cetkovska Vaidisova
Tweet. Tumble. Blog.

Stonerpova is offline  
post #4 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 11,528
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Maria was younger than Wozniacki today when she won her third slam at 2008 Australian Open. It's tough to believe at that time that she would fail to win another slam more than 3 years later.

Unfortunately, injuries and time away from tennis are all part of the game.

However, she can still do it and I wish her the best!
18majors is offline  
post #5 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 16,965
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by MakarovaFan View Post
This isnt a bashing thread nor a stan thread but honestly looking back,does anybody else think that these past few years should have been "prime" Maria's time to really stand out and dominate the sport?? Henin gone,Mauresmo gone,Serena and Kim part time players and the tour being full on mental midgets and random streak players.

Back when Maria burst on the tour she was a very consistent top player but more often than not one of the Henin/Mauresmo/Clijsters group would always block her(Slam SFs, number 1 rank etc). And then when she finally figured those players out Serena was back as well as a few new faces.It just seems to me back when she was a teenager,though a superb player, she always had the more experienced, faster and versatile triple threat in front of her but once those players were gone then it seemed it would have been her unrivaled time to shine. But given her 2008 start/form and the state of womens tennis recently how many people would have predicted come 2011 Maria would only have 3 slams??? Honestly speaking if Maria were to find her form of old(which before haters chirp in,she was very close to last summer) i really think she would be dominating the tour(and unlike Woz,the majors as well).

I know injuries,and time away from the tour are unfortunate and have stopped reasonably some of the best potential era for players(Seles in 93-95, S&V in 03/04) but its also part of the sport.
Sharapova never figured Mauresmo out.
Smitten is offline  
post #6 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 01:43 AM
Rena's Army
 
BuTtErFrEnA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: "The Terror of Veerror"
Posts: 34,278
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

she didn't exactly figure any of the ones stopping her...probably only jh since she beat her twice on the way to slams...


but i can't say for sure this was her time...there was always the possibility that someone could come out just like she did who was as consistent/better mover/harder hitter...unfortunately one injury gave her mentality a hit and she's not the same....

Raúl hasta siempre capitán ♥♥♥


I shall destroy the temple, and rebuild it in 3 days
BuTtErFrEnA is offline  
post #7 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,786
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

I'm not a fan but there's no denying that if Maria hadn't been injured she likely would have filled this void by winning many big titles. Kim and Serena would have still been tough outs at the majors so I don't know how many majors she would have won, but in my opinion there's no question she would have won alot of the big titles on the regular tour.

Venus Williams-Ana Ivanovic-Serena Williams-Vika Azarenka-Caroline Wozniacki

McHale-Stephens-Watson-Robson-Townsend

Brodsky-Muhammad-Hampton-Keys-Crawford-Andrews-Hardebeck
ptkten is offline  
post #8 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 02:34 AM
Senior Member
 
Matt01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 15,890
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitten View Post
Sharapova never figured Mauresmo out.

Or Henin.
Matt01 is offline  
post #9 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 02:56 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
MakarovaFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,587
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitten View Post
Sharapova never figured Mauresmo out.
Umm im sure the pair of bagels she feed then world NUMBER 1 in a GS SF of all places accounted for figuring her out!

~Elena Makarova~goddess of tennis
New Breed: Maria,Anastasia Myskina,Nicole,Ana,Tatiana Golovin,Jelena J,Iveta Benesova,Olga Poutchkova,Camille Pin,Maria Kirilenko,Alonya Bondarenko,Meilen Tu,Sania Mirza,Rezai,Ashley H,Tataina Poutchek,Sandra Kloesel,Klara Z,Mirjana Lucic,Dominka Cibulkova,Emauelle Gagliardi,Jelena Kostanic,Iroda,Martina Sucha,Raluca Olaru,Kveta,Marta D,Bethanie,Bychkova

Lilia Osterloh,Viktoriya Kutuzova,Yurika Sema,Anastasia Pivavrova(?),Stanislava Hrozenska,Marie-Eve,Zsofia,Angelika Roesch,Sunitha Rao,Anne Keothavang,Olivia Sanchez,Angela Haynes,Alex S,Jelena Dokic,Rosana De Los Rios,Kristina Brandi,Eva Fislova,Lindsay Lee

Elena Makarova,Anna K, Capriati,Lindsay,Henrieta Nagyova,Anca Barna,Petra Mandula,Jana Kandarr,
MakarovaFan is offline  
post #10 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 02:59 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,959
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt01 View Post
Or Henin.
I think the problem with Maria is that, when she first won her Slams, her body was not mature enough to support her power style of play. By the time her body matured the damage had been done to her shoulder, which caused her to be a part time player. If she were at her near peak now, she may have dominated this year and after Wimbledon last year. Unless she gets better physical therapy and coaching Maria will never win another slam, unless of course, the WTA siks to another new low.
thrust is offline  
post #11 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 03:06 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
MakarovaFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,587
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt01 View Post
Or Henin.
How so.... going into the end of Justine's first career(which is the era upon which this thread is based) they split their last 4 meetings(and Maria was 5 points from taking a 3rd match making that 3/4 wins in her favor) with Maria taking both the GS matchups lol .
-And last year ,to be fair neither player was near their best, but Maria ON CLAY very nearly beat Justine at RG.

~Elena Makarova~goddess of tennis
New Breed: Maria,Anastasia Myskina,Nicole,Ana,Tatiana Golovin,Jelena J,Iveta Benesova,Olga Poutchkova,Camille Pin,Maria Kirilenko,Alonya Bondarenko,Meilen Tu,Sania Mirza,Rezai,Ashley H,Tataina Poutchek,Sandra Kloesel,Klara Z,Mirjana Lucic,Dominka Cibulkova,Emauelle Gagliardi,Jelena Kostanic,Iroda,Martina Sucha,Raluca Olaru,Kveta,Marta D,Bethanie,Bychkova

Lilia Osterloh,Viktoriya Kutuzova,Yurika Sema,Anastasia Pivavrova(?),Stanislava Hrozenska,Marie-Eve,Zsofia,Angelika Roesch,Sunitha Rao,Anne Keothavang,Olivia Sanchez,Angela Haynes,Alex S,Jelena Dokic,Rosana De Los Rios,Kristina Brandi,Eva Fislova,Lindsay Lee

Elena Makarova,Anna K, Capriati,Lindsay,Henrieta Nagyova,Anca Barna,Petra Mandula,Jana Kandarr,
MakarovaFan is offline  
post #12 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 03:40 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 24,262
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by MakarovaFan View Post
This isnt a bashing thread ...... the tour being full on mental midgets and random streak players.
Okay, so what's your idea of a 'bashing' thread? "The tour is full of terrorists and child molesters?"

Proud to be an American
Not blind. Not uninformed. We are party to atrocities. But the response of the world after 9/11 is worth noting. Even our most dire enemies offered aid. We should all be so lucky.
Volcana is offline  
post #13 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 04:05 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 16,965
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by MakarovaFan View Post
Umm im sure the pair of bagels she feed then world NUMBER 1 in a GS SF of all places accounted for figuring her out!
Yes she beat Mauresmo on her worst surface in three sets. This does not constitute figuring Mauresmo out.

Mauresmo was in questionable form for the entire post Wimbledon hardcourt swing and had dropped a set earlier in the tournament to Santangelo(if I remember) of all people and got bageled by fat Serena Williams.

Mauresmo was a very uncomfortable matchup for Maria. Not giving her any pace to work with and constantly changing the height and spin of the ball while maintaining adequate pressure by coming forward.
Smitten is offline  
post #14 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Senior Member
 
SymphonyX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,102
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Sharapova's too physically fragile. Everyone figured out in 2008 that if Sharapova played the rest of the year like she did the Australian Open, she would have dominated the tour that year. Alas, injury took a toll on her.
SymphonyX is offline  
post #15 of 136 (permalink) Old May 6th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,286
                     
Re: Was 'now' supposed to be Maria's time....

Quote:
Originally Posted by MakarovaFan View Post
How so.... going into the end of Justine's first career(which is the era upon which this thread is based) they split their last 4 meetings(and Maria was 5 points from taking a 3rd match making that 3/4 wins in her favor) with Maria taking both the GS matchups lol .
-And last year ,to be fair neither player was near their best, but Maria ON CLAY very nearly beat Justine at RG.
Justine is 7-3 overall against Sharapova. She even leads Sharapova 4-3 on Maria's best surface of hard courts, while on clay it is a 3-0, 6-1 in sets blowout. When both were in their primes hard courts were a toss up with Justine winning more often than Maria in fact (4-2 to Justine if we consider 05-07 their mutual prime), and clay was Justine predictably schooling Maria the couple times they met. In most significantly in Maria's best year ever- 2006, Justine still led the head to head 3-1 without a single clay matchup. Maria won the biggest match in the U.S Open final, but Justine still won almost as big of matches with the 2006 Australian Open semis and the 2006 WTA Championships semis which decided the year end #1 between the two. Justine also beat Maria in the 2007 WTA Championships final before Maria's final win at the 2008 Australian Open in the quarters. Maria never had back to back wins over Henin, in fact between each of the 3 wins is multiple losses in a row. There is no doubt Justine always had the edge in the overall matchup.

Last edited by justineheninfan; May 6th, 2011 at 07:18 AM.
justineheninfan is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

Registration Image

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome