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Madrid is the 2nd biggest claycourt tournament in the world ... at the quarterfinal stage, we are left with Azarenka & Li (2 of the biggest bashers on the WTA today), newbie bashers Georges, Kvitova and Pavlychenkova, petite bashers Cibulkova and Mattek Sands, and other bashers Safarova & Gajdosova

already eliminated are non-bashers world #1 Wozniacki, her close associate Radwanska, clay court stalwart Jankovic, world #3 Zvonareva, the reigning Roland Garros champ Schiavone, CLAY-GOAT Stosur, WARSAW-GOAT Dulgheru, last year's semi-finalist Peer, recent MM champs Vinci & Brianti

does that mean that a ballbasher will be lifting the trophy at Roland Garros 2011 for the 1st time since Ivanovic did 3 years ago???

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Re: Only Ballbashers Left @ 2011 Madrid ... Preview of 2011 Roland Garros ???

Azarenka and Cibulkova really aren't ballbashers. You are just trying to start shit /
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Matteck-Sands is not a ballbasher you clueless idiot. Nor is Azaranka and Cibulkova.

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Re: Only Ballbashers Left @ 2011 Madrid ... Preview of 2011 Roland Garros ???

When Azarenka is the least ballbashing player left.....

The Madrid clay is super fast though , may as well be a red hard court. I think Rome will provide a better view.
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Re: Only Ballbashers Left @ 2011 Madrid ... Preview of 2011 Roland Garros ???

Last year Rezai won Madrid. Hard to say what's happening, except we know Sam & Fran are not in the same form they were at RG 2010.
Its possible Nastia & Julia are uncomng stars. But they need to do it at majors, or often at Tier I's.

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Re: Only Ballbashers Left @ 2011 Madrid ... Preview of 2011 Roland Garros ???

Pretty much all the top players are eliminated in Madrid. I think Vika is winning this.
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Azarenka and Cibulkova really aren't ballbashers. You are just trying to start shit /
Azarenka not a ballbasher

Cibulkova ballbashed when she played Wozniacki in Sydney this year ... that is the last match I saw her play

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Matteck-Sands is not a ballbasher you clueless idiot. Nor is Azaranka and Cibulkova.
Mattek was ballbashing like crazy in her match against Sexa today

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Mattek was ballbashing like crazy in her match against Sexa today
She was not missing in the second set. She came forward at approriate times and hit drop shots and defensive slices. As an experienced doubles player you will often see Beth serve and volleying in singles. She is a willing and able volleyer on any surface.

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Re: Only Ballbashers Left @ 2011 Madrid ... Preview of 2011 Roland Garros ???

Well Azarenka and Domi aren't retrievers.

The clay is fast here. It's not too shocking. As someone said, Rome will be better

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From all I've heard Madrid plays a lot faster than RG.

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Azarenka is a ballbasher (but a good one ).

Cibulkova is not a ballbasher.
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Well Azarenka and Domi aren't retrievers.



Domi and Mattek-Sands are not ball bashers, esp. Mattek-Sands clue in na-goat



you could even argue some of those other hard hitters are not ball bashers a la Maria/Davenport.

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Domi and Mattek-Sands are not ball bashers, esp. Mattek-Sands clue in na-goat



you could even argue some of those other hard hitters are not ball bashers a la Maria/Davenport.
I think you're taking the ball basher term a little sensitively.

Let's rephrase the OP.

Madrid, one of the largest clay tournaments in the world, is not playing out the way clay tournaments usually do.
Some of the players who have made it through to the current rounds often turn to hitting the ball with pace from the baseline rather than working points, using relatively more spin and playing generally more moderate to defensively styled tennis.

Is this an anomaly due to the elevation in Madrid?

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The altitude plays a huge difference. In Rome, we had Jankovic making it all the way to the final, and she made RG semis. Rome is now the best measure of how players will fair in Paris, which sucks because the clay in Rome even looks VERY different from the smooth texture of Roland Garros for the most part. Let's see how the top players do in Rome and maybe Bruxelles/Strasbourg where the conditions are more like RG and are actually outdoors.

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I think you're taking the ball basher term a little sensitively.

Let's rephrase the OP.

Madrid, one of the largest clay tournaments in the world, is not playing out the way clay tournaments usually do.
Some of the players who have made it through to the current rounds often turn to hitting the ball with pace from the baseline rather than working points, using relatively more spin and playing generally more moderate to defensively styled tennis.

Is this an anomaly due to the elevation in Madrid?
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The two that I mentioned? really?



I could see one arguing Cibulkova as a ball-basher, but Mattek-Sands... really?

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