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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Apr 11th, 2011, 07:13 AM Thread Starter
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Kim 2003 = Caro 2011

It seems they have similar destinies.

Kim in 2003 won 9 titles in 15 finals appearance, became No.1 yet slamless. Caroline seems to be doing a Clijsteresque journey. Back then Kim also had a very similar type of defense game (but better of course).

What's funny is that Kim is the one keeping Caro in that record. Beating her in important finals and being absent in the most part of the season.

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Re: Kim 2003 = Caro 2011

But back then it was Serena and Juju stopping Kim...nowadays? Li, Vera, Kvitova are enough to stop Caro.

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Re: Kim 2003 = Caro 2011

Ok. Agreed. Your making a statement that is pretty true. Not really anything to discuss though.

Another good comparison could be Jelena's 2008. Consistently in SF/F. Won some titles had some big finals that she couldn't win. Had a hot streak of consecutive titles. And just to be a bitch, she played and beat the WS that year Losing to Serena in her 2 major finals and beating her at AO. And beating Venus at Stuttgart and losing to her at YEC.

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Re: Kim 2003 = Caro 2011

Kim used to defeat great players back then, of a way higher league than today's field.
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Re: Kim 2003 = Caro 2011

Kim said that Caro reminds her of a young Kim.
Major difference moving forward is that Caro looks best of her generation.
We'll see if that holds over the next 5-10 years

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Kim used to defeat great players back then, of a way higher league than today's field.
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I think I will put GoldenSocks on ignore. Seriously it's like a computerized troll.
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I think I will put GoldenSocks on ignore. Seriously it's like a computerized troll.
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Agree
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Kim used to defeat great players back then, of a way higher league than today's field.

Today's field is much deeper than it was in 2003, though.
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Today's field is much deeper than it was in 2003, though.
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Today's field is much deeper than it was in 2003, though.
The younger players have done better and better at the Premiers.
Caro, Vika, Petra have decent titles this year.
The next step is for young players to win majors. Then they become the ruling class, with new young players coming up.

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But back then it was Serena and Juju stopping Kim...nowadays? Li, Vera, Kvitova are enough to stop Caro.
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Today's field is much deeper than it was in 2003, though.
Please don't...

From 2002 to 2003, notable people Clijsters defeated include Conchita Martinez (altho at latter stage of her career), Serena Williams, Venus Williams, Justine Henin, Jennifer Capriati, Daniela Hantuchova, Jelena Dokic, Ai Sugiyama, Amelie Mauresmo, and Elena Dementieva. Also took Martina Hingis and Monica Seles to 3 sets in 2002 (even though it was at the very latter stages of their career but they still held their own).

From 2010 to 2011, notable people Wozniacki defeated include Vera Zvonareva, Francesca Schiavone, Elena Dementieva, Marion Bartoli, Victoria Azarenka, Shahar Peer , slumping Sharapova, slumping Jankovic, slumping Kuznetsova, and slumping Ivanovic. Also took Justine Henin and Li Na to 3 sets in 2010/2011.


fyi not a post bashing Wozniacki but get your perspectives right.

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fyi not a post bashing Wozniacki but get your perspectives right.

I meant the field overall and not only at the top. And how fair is it to compare players of 2003 who collected lots of Slams afterwards with young players of 2011 who still have lots of time to win more big tournaments?
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