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When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Watching the SEOpen final today, I was surprised how many times Maria and Vika decided to hit a swinging volley instead of hitting an overhead. Time after time the swinging volley was ineffective and allowed the opponent back into the point. It seems that this is becoming common place in women's tennis. I personally prefer the overhead as it lessens the chance of your opponent getting back into the point. Am I the only one noticing this?

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Maria doesn't hit too many overheads anyway. Perhaps the wind limited Vika in this regard. Personally, I love overheads too so I hope this isn't a trend.

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

I have a hard time hitting an effective swinging volley too, and an overhead really opens up many more possibilities in height, spin and placement which a swinging volley doesn't. But I guess the girls feel more secure hitting a groundstroke than a serve, hence...
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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Since the womens serve became a joke. Both the serve and overhead are linked

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

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Since the womens serve became a joke. Both the serve and overhead are linked
There you go. Same motion, same mechanics. It makes no sense to me that players at that level cannot execute basic shots like that.

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

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I have a hard time hitting an effective swinging volley too, and an overhead really opens up many more possibilities in height, spin and placement which a swinging volley doesn't. But I guess the girls feel more secure hitting a groundstroke than a serve, hence...
This. But it's sad that most girls feel better about a swinging volley and usually wind up losing the point.

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

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Since the womens serve became a joke. Both the serve and overhead are linked
Not at all actually - with a service, you are limited to a space , but with an overhead you really have no limitation. I think its just a preference that some women have. You still see many top players using the overhead like Serena, Jelena, Ivanovic, Venus, Stosur, Radwanska, Schiviaone, Kuznetsova, etc.
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I have a hard time hitting an effective swinging volley too, and an overhead really opens up many more possibilities in height, spin and placement which a swinging volley doesn't. But I guess the girls feel more secure hitting a groundstroke than a serve, hence...
Why is that, though? Since the serve is the only shot you have complete control over, I think it should not be your least effective shot, regardless of gender.

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Well I remember in a few matches hearing the commentators say that Maria hits more swing volleys than overheads now because of her shoulder issues. I actually like watching the swing volley... it's a cool shot.

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Well I remember in a few matches hearing the commentators say that Maria hits more swing volleys than overheads now because of her shoulder issues. I actually like watching the swing volley... it's a cool shot.
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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

I think Venus... She made the swinging volley such an incredible shot... She would rather hit a swing volley than overheads...

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Maria's swinging volley used to be as effective as an overhead...look at AO 08. But now she gets too tentative and hits to the middle of the court....
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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

Maybe it was to do with the sun or something. I've seen Vika hit a fair few overheads. I thought it was weird when she hit the swinging volley.

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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

I was also surprised today seeing the swinging volleys. It really looked like overhead would be more effective (which is not always the case). On the other hand I think it is just this match. I saw it used often by Schiavone in last match against Radwanska.

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Anyway I agree with earlier statement that a lot of top players use it and this match seems to be more of an exception.
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Re: When did hitting an overhead go out of style?

After Mauresmo and Henin retired..

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