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WWW a battle between Seles and Wozniacki???

Yesterday I finished reading the book of Monica Seles.
She really had a lot of trouble with her weight, anyhow she was a Top10 player between 1995 and 2003.
If the after-stabbing-Seles would play against the current number 1 in the world... Who would win?!

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They could play right now, Caroline would win easily, then beat Graf, then Navratilova, all in 2 sets.
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Well the post-stabbing Seles that always sticks out in my mind is the one from 2001-2003 who consistently gave trouble to the sisters, and beat them a couple of times, beat Clijsters at Miami 2002, went toe to toe with Justine. All of whom were better defenders than Wozniacki and all of whom had offence capabilities to match Seles' own.

I find it hard to imagine that Seles doing anything but routing Wozniacki.

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Being totally fair, if they played eachother ten times: Non-Peak Seles, but in her prime of pre-stabbing vs Wozniacki , Seles would win at least eight of those meetings. Not 6-0 6-0 per se, but I'd like her chances in two straightforward sets on all surfaces.

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Re: WWW a battle between Seles and Pushniacki???

i also would say that seles would win like 6:2, 6:3 or so.
girls like davenport, seles, pierce, capriati really like players styles like wozniackis.
can not understand that nobody of the current top ladys can't stop her.

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i also would say that seles would win like 6:2, 6:3 or so.
girls like davenport, seles, pierce, capriati really like players styles like wozniackis.
can not understand that nobody of the current top ladys can't stop her.
I feel the problem is that the girls on tour looked up to, and aspired to play like a lot of the above players - The only problem is that they're playing a watered down version of their games. Yes, the girls of today can hit as hard as Davenport, Seles et al, but they can only manage for 3-5 strokes before breaking down either mentally or physically. Just compare the way Sharapova(as much as I love her,) played against Wozniacki, to Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams' Wimbledon final back in 05. There was one rally I remember, in that final set and after hours of tight play, where Venus and Lindsay went toe to toe in something like a twenty stroke rally; And they weren't zero-pace puffballs either like you would get in a Wozniacki match, they were clobbering the living daylights out of the ball and placing it so well. All the players of today seem to have taken from that Golden Age is that you have to hit hard to win, which is why things are as dire as they are now.

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Seles would've been a really bad matchup for Wozniacki. The angles would be too much for her. And Seles's strokes were very very hard to read, I don't believe Wozniacki would have such superb anticipation against her. And her anticipation is her biggest strength.

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Why post stabbing? Let´s go pre-stabbing, so we can end it right there. Seles beats her on every surface.

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Post stabbing Seles was owned by nearly all the top players, granted most of them were huge power players who could have outhit even the pre stabbing Seles. Clijsters and Henin werent even close to their prime levels and not that good when aging Seles was beating them, in fact not even as good as Wozniacki now. I wouldnt say 2002 Clijsters and Henin were even real top players. To answer the question it depends which post stabbing Seles you refer to as she got older she got slightly worse and more ineffective like most aging players who go further past their primes. So it depends which years of that 95-2003 period you are referring to.

Wozniacki is pretty much hated on this forum though. There was a poll where nearly everyone picked prime Sandrine Testud to be better than Wozniacki so of course everyone in a thread like this is going to side with a post stabbing Seles who was easily better than Testud.
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Why post stabbing? Let´s go pre-stabbing, so we can end it right there. Seles beats her on every surface.
If it was pre stabbing there would be no point for this thread. It would be like asking who is better between 2002-2003 Serena and Wozniacki or 2006-2007 Henin and Wozniacki.
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Caroline by walkover, because Seles is not an active player now and it's very doubtful she will come back
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If it was pre stabbing there would be no point for this thread. It would be like asking who is better between 2002-2003 Serena and Wozniacki or 2006-2007 Henin and Wozniacki.
Yeah but I´m not conceding any matches in mythical matchups on that idea. It´s bad enough I had to witness Martina Hingis bitchslap a fat Monica Seles around, when the stabbing was the only reason Hingis ever won a Slam in her life.

I am not a fan of the direction a lot of Maria threads have taken over the last 12 months.
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Post-stabbing.. I'm not sure. Depends on how fit Seles was.

I think Seles would win 6 out of 10 times.

Pre-stabbing it would be no contest on any surface.

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