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January 23, 2011, 1:47 pm Analysis: How Wozniacki Keeps Winning

By GEOFF MACDONALD Caroline Wozniacki wins in such a workmanlike, undramatic way that many tennis observers overlook what she does do well. She wears down her opponents with consistency, calm, and a complete understanding of what she can and can’t do on a tennis court. If playing a tennis match is akin to managing money, Wozniacki would earn you a solid return, year in and year out, but she would never stand out.

For this reason, her No. 1 ranking is viewed as somewhat unearned. She has yet to win a Grand Slam, and many tennis observers point to her solid, unflashy gamestyle as proof that she’s too defensive, too much of a counterpuncher, to ever step up and win a major. When I watch Wozniacki play, I’m reminded of another world No. 1, Mats Wilander, who won the French Open at 17, then stepped back and developed a more complete game to win at Flushing Meadow on hard courts.

Back in the day,at the old Australian Open on the slippery grass at Kooyong, Wilander came through with great returning and even some serve and volley to win. Like Wozniacki, Mats Wilander won matches without a real weapon. His strength — and hers — was that he had no weaknesses. Early on, his serve lacked weight and he rarely attacked. To remedy this, he and his fellow Swede Joachim Nystrom, set out to learn how to play doubles. At first, the Swedes were considered a good draw, as they lacked the proper instincts and could not volley well. A few years later they won Wimbledon.

Wozniacki plays a lot like Wilander. Jay Berger once said that the best shot on the men’s tour was Wilander’s brain, and a similar compliment could be said today about Wozniacki. She wins with good movement and anticipation, unwavering discipline in her shot selection, and a steady, phlegmatic demeanonor. Like Wilander, her favorite shot to pull the trigger on is the down the line backhand. It’s her strong left jab to counter her opponent’s huge roundhouse swings. Against Dominique Cibulkova, Wozniacki withstood a blitzkrieg of huge forehands, staying with her game even when Cibulkova was hitting her off of the court. She rode out the storm, defended and kept the ball in play, and in the end won in straight sets.

On Sunday, playing Anastasija Sevastova, Wozniacki again won in straight sets against an opponent who, for a time, looked capable of taking a set. But Wozniacki won by taking anything Sepostava would give her. A way to watch a great player is to note how often the player wins what I call unremarkable points.

Back to the money metaphor: if each point is a hundred dollars, watch how often Wozniacki wins on a missed service return, a double fault, a loose error early in the point. Yes, she will lose the fast and furious exchange when her opponent hits a winner, but watch her collect the points that will never make a highlight film. Remember, they are all worth a hundred dollars. Watch Wozniacki win like the house at a casino. Nadal is also adept at picking up free points, while giving away very few.

By playing within herself, by not overreaching with her shots, Wozniacki is often accused of not playing to win. Andy Roddick, especially when he locks down and grinds from the backcourt, faces similar criticism. But in adopting that style, both players make themselves hard to beat. Roddick, despite his loss on Sunday, has his superb serve to get him through, but Wozniacki has a first class temperament to handle the rough moments of a match. She may not win every time, but she makes sure that her opponent earns every single point.

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I like the article...and I usually don't read NYT when they write on tennis.

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I have to agree with the article ...


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Seems like a very valid article. I have been mystified by those who criticize Caroline’s play; proclaiming her style to be boring. To me seeing a player able to return a shot that would be a winner against most other players is just as exciting if not more so than a winner. And that is what I enjoy when I see Caroline play.
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Agreed. She does need to develop her game more: Especially her forehand and volleys/transition game.
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Great that the media is now writing with more subtlety and showing fans why Caro is so good. What remains, though, is a slam win. Once that happens, the comparisons to Wilander -- who did win at 17 -- will seem more apt. If it's in a week, all the better.

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I agree with the basis of the article, but Wilander's true counterpart is Hingis down to the very T.
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Re: NYT analysis: How Wozniacki keeps winning

I don't think this is that great of an article. It only makes a few claims, and doesn't back them up with details.

-She has no weaknesses. What about her forehand? She has been beaten enough that you can hardly say Wozniacki's game has no weaknesses.
-Good movement and anticipation, good shot selection. These are way too vague to tell us anything. Is her shot selection any more balanced than anyone else's, or does she just happen to commit less errors? Are these things even measurable, or are they just platitudes that get pulled out when you can't figure out how else someone is winning?
-her favorite shot to pull the trigger on is the down the line backhand. Great. So wouldn't this shot produce winners, and why doesn't she have any?

This article avoids the obvious question- is this strategy good enough to beat the top players? So far the answer seems to be no.

They also could have pointed out that slow and steady is a bad strategy in tennis if you want to make the big money. You tend to get the most money(and endorsement money) if you win slams, not if you reach the #1 ranking.

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I don't think this is that great of an article. It only makes a few claims, and doesn't back them up with details.

-She has no weaknesses. What about her forehand? She has been beaten enough that you can hardly say Wozniacki's game has no weaknesses.
-Good movement and anticipation, good shot selection. These are way too vague to tell us anything. Is her shot selection any more balanced than anyone else's, or does she just happen to commit less errors? Are these things even measurable, or are they just platitudes that get pulled out when you can't figure out how else someone is winning?
-her favorite shot to pull the trigger on is the down the line backhand. Great. So wouldn't this shot produce winners, and why doesn't she have any?

This article avoids the obvious question- is this strategy good enough to beat the top players? So far the answer seems to be no.

They also could have pointed out that slow and steady is a bad strategy in tennis if you want to make the big money. You tend to get the most money(and endorsement money) if you win slams, not if you reach the #1 ranking.
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Jesus, NYT, stick a crowbar in your wallet and get some copyediting.

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Her game is what it is..this is her level. She has no extra gear. so if she runs into a hot player, she's a goner.

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Wozniacki to me is comparable too a Casino,

With her, you will never win the jackpot, but if you play your pokies right, stick too the 2cent machines (Aussies and Kiwis will know what I'm on about), you can be guaranteed to come out of it with no more than a solid effort, consistently playing for several hours and not giving away much.
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I stopped reading at 'no weaknesses'.
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