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How the heck did Schiavone win a slam with that serve?

I know alot of people are amazed (for obvious reasons) Schiavone ever won a slam period. Even more to the point I am frankly amazed how she ever won a slam with that atrocious serve. It seems like every match she plays she has double faults and no winning serves, and has to fight her ass off to try and hold.
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On clay her piss poor serve should only have been ripped apart even more by the strong returners. How did the big hitting Stosur especialy let her get away with it.
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Re: How the heck did Schiavone win a slam with that serve?

^Because in order to win a grand slam, you need to be able to hit both a backhand and forehand.
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Her serve is not that bad today




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Her serve is not that bad today
ROTFL which is why she has had 20 break points against, lost serve 7 times, and has lots of double faults with hardly any service winners. Yeah AWESOME serving.
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Re: How the heck did Schiavone win a slam with that serve?

I'm not a fan at all of Stosur but it was such a shame that she lost to Flukavone after beating Henin,Serena,Jankovic which is worth about winning two majors
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ROTFL which is why she has had 20 break points against, lost serve 7 times, and has lots of double faults with hardly any service winners. Yeah AWESOME serving.
She didn't get broken because her serve is shitty. It's not anything amazing, but it isn't immediately attackable. She places her serve pretty well.




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On clay her piss poor serve should only have been ripped apart even more by the strong returners.
This is WTA, not the ATP.
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I'm not a fan at all of Stosur but it was such a shame that she lost to Flukavone after beating Henin,Serena,Jankovic which is worth about winning two majors
Did you actually see the match? Stosur was outplayed, that match was the last hurrah of tactical tennis triumphing over zero movement, topspin brainless power hitter.
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She didn't get broken because her serve is shitty. It's not anything amazing, but it isn't immediately attackable. She places her serve pretty well.
Today she has 2 aces and 8 double faults, and 49% first serve percentage (her typical serving performance vs any half decent opponent). She indeed places her serve well, fluffy soft serves in the net or wide that is. You arent in trouble on EVERY service game and even with your opponent blowing all kinds of break points still losing your serve 7 or 8 times in a 3 set match with a good serve, sorry.
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This is WTA, not the ATP.
Actually WTA has excellent returning now. It is why combined with the overall weak serving of the WTA you see so many breaks in general.
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because Elena was injured
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Today she has 2 aces and 8 double faults, and 49% first serve percentage. She indeed places her serve well, in the net or long and wide that is. You arent in trouble on EVERY service game and even with your opponent blowing all kinds of break points still losing your serve 7 or 8 times in a 3 set match with a good serve, sorry.
Like I said, she didn't get broken just because her serve is so shitty.

And no, her placement is decent... her second serve is not short in the box and immediately attackable...

Her serve isn't particularly worse than some others in the top 10 like Zvonareva




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Re: How the heck did Schiavone win a slam with that serve?

She moves well.
No matter how hard the ball came back to her, even after a slow serve, she could run down and make something out of it.
The hard hitters all think that a good return of serve = winner.
Not with Franny.
Did you see the volleys Sveta had to make just to win a point?
It's almost inhuman how fast Franny could get to all those balls.

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