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Safina was never that good to begin with..

I'm sorry to break it to you guys, Safina was never that good. She took advantage of a weak period in the WTA when her confidence was at an all time high. And still managed to lose pretty easily in matches that were important. Outside of clay she was never any good

She's a decent top 25 player and nothing more. She did good to make two slam finals IMO.

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Three slam finals.
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She sounds pretty shit to me :sarcasm:

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She lost those finals pretty badly too. And two of them were on clay. She's good on clay and that's it.

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She lost those finals pretty badly too. And two of them were on clay. She's good on clay and that's it.
Nerves. Very good player, but a nervous wreck in important moments.
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I agree. Some people seem clueless to this fact. I laughed when she won the poll as best slamless #1 over Jankovic and Wozniacki. Alot of people here are really clueless on certain things.

I dont like to dump on any players, even ones I dont like, but it seems alot of people need a reality check when it comes to Safina. Even at her very best she is just a top 20 player at best. Her gettting to #1 was a huge accident, an enormous overachievement, and essentialy a fluke. It was a combination of so many factors- the retirements of the Belgians, Serena only caring about 6 events a year meaning someone else has to be ranked #1 alot of the time no matter how bad the field is, a badly flawed ranking system that rewards quantity over quality amongst other flaws, so many top players being injured or out of form, and a wierd recent trend of nearly all the better players (not just Serena) not wanting to play much which goes against the current ranking policies. Even when #1 there were atleast 8 women in the then depleted WTA who expected to beat her anytime out and most times easily did so, especialy in an important match, while anyone in the top 200 could still potentially beat her on any given day. She never scared or intimidated anyone even while #1. She is a B-level power player with a poor serve, and that is her only game, she has nothing else be it decent volleying, good tactics, variety, and she moves poorly and is a suspect competitor.
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No need to be so defensive, but people are acting like Safina will get back to the top 5 or something. She excels on clay and outside of it her game is pretty average: Bad Mover, Inconsistent Serve + Forehand, Decent Backhand. Nothing more

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I agree. Some people seem clueless to this fact. I laughed when she won the poll as best slamless #1 over Jankovic and Wozniacki. Alot of people here are really clueless on certain things.

I dont like to dump on any players, even ones I dont like, but it seems alot of people need a reality check when it comes to Safina. Even at her very best she is just a top 20 player at best. Her gettting to #1 was a huge accident, an enormous overachievement, and essentialy a fluke. It was a combination of so many factors- the retirements of the Belgians, Serena only caring about 6 events a year meaning someone else has to be ranked #1 alot of the time no matter how bad the field is, a badly flawed ranking system that rewards quantity over quality amongst other flaws, so many top players being injured or out of form, and a wierd recent trend of nearly all the better players (not just Serena) not wanting to play much which goes against the current ranking policies. Even when #1 there were atleast 8 women in the then depleted WTA who expected to beat her anytime out and most times easily did so, especialy in an important match, while anyone in the top 200 could still potentially beat her on any given day. She never scared or intimidated anyone even while #1. She is a B-level power player with a poor serve, and that is her only game, she has nothing else be it decent volleying, good tactics, variety, and she moves poorly and is a suspect competitor.
I agree 100% with everything you said.

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Oh God, another pretenious and arrogant thread created by a poster with as much tennis knowledge as a spoon. A weak period? She beat Serena and Justine in the same tournament at the start of her rise. Also, I begin to question whether you've watched Safina play at her best, because if you did you wouldn't create such a ridiculous thread with such ill informed claims. You'd know Dinara was actually a very good player, maybe not your typical #1 but definitely top 3. When did you actually start watching tennis? By the sounds of things it was only recently. What Dinara lacked in natural talent she made up for with hard work. Yes, she's going through a rough patch atm, but she has proved with 3 grand slam finals, an Silver Olympic medal and having 'been #1' in her resume she is more than a 'top 25 at best' player.


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Three slam finals.
2 of them the real final took place before the final. Jankovic-Ivanovic was the real final of the 2008 French, and the winner played a final exhibition vs Safina. Dementieva-Serena was the real final of the 2009 Australian and the winners played a final exhibition vs Safina. The 2009 French is the only one she was really in the tournament deciding match and what a fiasco that was.

I laugh that people use the basis of 3 slam finals vs 1 for Jankovic as the so called reason Safina is superior to Jankovic. As if Safina was actually playing better than Jankovic at the 2008 French, LOL! If Jelena had won that tense semifinal with Ana which she probably should have she would have spanked Safina in the final.
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Nerves. Very good player, but a nervous wreck in important moments.
This. Safina was wasted talent before her surprise run.
When she started her rise she was starting to turn that talent into something.

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Good player at the time. That's it.
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This thread is nothing we didn't already now.

For years.
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