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View Poll Results: Which part of Kim's career was more sucessful?
First part 7 14.58%
Second part 29 60.42%
Hard to say 3 6.25%
We'll see how sucessful she will be in the future 4 8.33%
Second part - only if she reaches the top again 5 10.42%
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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old Jan 18th, 2011, 09:59 AM Thread Starter
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Which part of Kim's career was better?

Which part of Kim's career was better?

The first part until 2007 or the second part from 2009 on?

First part:

- 1 Grand-Slam-title
- 19 weeks # 1 (2003)


Second part:

- 2 Grand-Slam-titles (+ ?)
- # 3 (2010)
--> close to # 2 (maybe # 1)
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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

Second part, but then again the competition is no-where near as cut-throat as her first career.
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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

Mama Kim is much more impressive
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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

We know many players who doublebageled other players at Grandslam
and did not win it. so maybe you have been carried away by Kim's
performance today and think she will win the whole thing. Let us
wait and see what her few next opponents to show against her before
we will conclusively convince that she is the ONE.
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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

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Second part, but then again the competition is no-where near as cut-throat as her first career.
Agree!!! Her second career competitors are way beyond her level...her first though got serena, hard hitting on top form Venus n Justine, the fearless Maria sharapova...n the one n only Lindsay davenport...and others!!!
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We know many players who doublebageled other players at Grandslam
and did not win it. so maybe you have been carried away by Kim's
performance today and think she will win the whole thing. Let us
wait and see what her few next opponents to show against her before
we will conclusively convince that she is the ONE.
Lol can you read? Where is there a single mention of Kim winning the AO? This thread is talking about which part of Kim's career is better, not how she's going to win AO, there's plenty of threads in GM for that.

Obviously, Kim's had a more impressive 2nd part of her career, but her only competition has been a Serena that only shows up during slams (not even all of them )and a frail Henin. Her opposition was INFINITELY more dangerous during the first part of her career, and she won a bunch of titles back then.

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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

That she has a child, & won 2 majors is incredible.
The amount of work & focus that it takes to be this good, plus raising a child, which involves a lot of focus & worries.

Is there any other mom who won multiple slams?

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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

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Second part, but then again the competition is no-where near as cut-throat as her first career.
This.

In achievements, Kim's second career is much better, clearly.
Game wise, Kim's first career hands down IMO.

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2 slams > 1 slam

Plus she has better record against Serena, Justine, Venus and Maria.

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Obviously, Kim's had a more impressive 2nd part of her career, but her only competition has been a Serena that only shows up during slams (not even all of them )and a frail Henin. Her opposition was INFINITELY more dangerous during the first part of her career, and she won a bunch of titles back then.
And she was still able to beat the players who were better in 2005 - 2 wins against Venus, beat Sharapova on the way to her title in '05. People talk like she only wins now that she is playing mugs... She never played Serena/Henin in slams past AO 2004 anyways.




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This.

In achievements, Kim's second career is much better, clearly.
Game wise, Kim's first career hands down IMO.
Game-wise her first career yes... but mentally she's miles ahead of where she was in her first career.

Personally, I enjoyed the titles, doubles achievements, and #1 reign as a fan..
but she seems really happy now and she's taking the big titles instead of winning a ton of smaller ones so I'll say second career as well.

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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

First part. Obviously when it;s all over, you want to win slams. But the first part of Clijsters career is that of a consistent, long-term top level player. The second part is the same player, but less consistent, and for a shorter term.

1st part: 1 slam singles, 4 slam finals, 6 slam semis, 34 titles including
2005 - Indian Wells, Miami, Toronto,
2003 - Indian Wells, Rome, WTA Championships;
2002 - WTA Championships;
2nd part: 2 slam singles, 1 QF, 6 total titles including
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Second part, but then again the competition is no-where near as cut-throat as her first career.
pretty much this.
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First part. Obviously when it;s all over, you want to win slams. But the first part of Clijsters career is that of a consistent, long-term top level player. The second part is the same player, but less consistent, and for a shorter term.

1st part: 1 slam singles, 4 slam finals, 6 slam semis, 34 titles including
2005 - Indian Wells, Miami, Toronto,
2003 - Indian Wells, Rome, WTA Championships;
2002 - WTA Championships;
2nd part: 2 slam singles, 1 QF, 6 total titles including
2010 - Miami, Cincinnati, WTA Championships

The first part of Kim's career was 8 years long.

The second part is 1.5 years long so far, and she's already won twice as many slams.
6 titles in 1.5 years is comparable to 34 titles in 8 years. Except now Kim is winning the big ones, and playing less tournaments.

I don't think it makes sense to knock on Kim's second career for the freak losses in smaller tournaments, etc. It's obvious that her priorities have changed now, and she doesn't really care about the rankings. #1 is been there, done that for her.

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Re: Which part of Kim's career was better?

The competition has been shit her second career.
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