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Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

It looks like 2011 might finally be the year when the guard changes for good. The older generation is in decline. Venus, for the first time in over a decade, is not considered a contender at the Australian Open. Serena is out of commission for an extended period and may come back a changed player. Henin can basically only play a few tournaments and would be out of the top 30 if not for her Australian Open run. Jankovic, Sharapova, Safina, Kuznetsova and Ivanovic all look past their peak. Dementieva called it a day already. Kim is the only player still playing well for her standards but she has always kept family as her main priority.

The future belongs to Wozniacki, Azarenka, Pavyluchenkova, Jovanovski, Wickmayer, Kleybanova, Kvitova and their age group and it looks like 2011 will be the year that they (+Kim) will win most of the titles.

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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

the 1st big title was between 2 of the older players (li and kim). the 2 main faves for the oz open are kim and henin.

if by the time wimbledon comes around serena is back she will be the huge favourite for it. the us open kim and serena.

yes other players are winning titles, but when and where it matters the old guard are still very much the players to look to.

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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

Until the younger group takes over the Premiers & majors, the guard hasn't turned yet.
But it will happen, sooner or later

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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

i think 2013 will be the beginning of the next era, a lot of big names will be gone by the end of 2012..i suspect alot of players will retire one by one after the Olympics, such as possibly serena, venus, kim, petrova to name a few
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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

I really don't wanna think about these things yet
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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

No, I don't think so. I think that the tennis tours, both female and male, are in the worst of shape they have been in a while, and it will be several years before things are corrected. Not many of the "future" stars really are star quality.
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U could be right about most, but saying Ivanovic is past her peak is crazy??

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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

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Until the younger group takes over the Premiers & majors, the guard hasn't turned yet.
But it will happen, sooner or later
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i think 2013 will be the beginning of the next era, a lot of big names will be gone by the end of 2012..i suspect alot of players will retire one by one after the Olympics, such as possibly serena, venus, kim, petrova to name a few
Kim will leave just after the 2012 OG, the WS and Justine are likely to leave as well... :scary:

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If we incl Kim in the 'younger group', when was a Tier 1 or major last won by someone outside this group of players? ... If I'm not mistaken, you'll have to go back to SW19 2010.

You could also say, when was a Tier 1/major won by someone who wasn't Caro or Kim? .. again back to SW19 2010.

Unless you're wearing blinders and/or stay firmly in denial, imho the 'change' is clearly taking place as we speak.

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Why would we include Kim in the younger group ?

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If we incl Kim in the 'younger group',
You can't include Kim in the younger group because she is a veteran with 10+ years on the tour.

No changing of the guard yet. I think it's pretty clear the Belgians and WS will have to quit for that to happen.

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You can't include Kim in the younger group because she is a veteran with 10+ years on the tour.

No changing of the guard yet. I think it's pretty clear the Belgians and WS will have to quit for that to happen.
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serena will never retire.....so DON'T say it









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You can't include Kim in the younger group because she is a veteran with 10+ years on the tour.

No changing of the guard yet. I think it's pretty clear the Belgians and WS will have to quit for that to happen.
Yeah, weirdo face right back at ya!

Kim is a year younger than Justine. A year older than Bepa. 3 years younger than Fran. She's not exactly a pensioner and she's been out of the game, as you well know. Its all symantics who's put in each group. Younger, Older, middle 20's, late 20's etc... If Kim retired tomorrow, you could argue the guard has now changed, as no-one but Kim and Caro has won a Tier 1/Major for 6 month.

So changing of the guards depends on only 4 players?

Serena Williams. Greatest player of current generation, but may never return to competitive tennis.
Venus Williams. Haven't won a major since ...I can't remember, but it's many moons ago. She's also 30+ and has dodgy knees. Not considered a contender anymore.
Justine Henin. Bit of a health problem. I'd say it's unlikely Justine has the health/body to play anywhere near a normal WTA schedule. Contender at majors, if she plays/is fit.
Kim Clijsters. The youngest of the 'depends on for the guard to change'. Kim is 27 .. thats just ooooooold, but hopefully she'll stick around for a few more years.

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Re: Do you think we are at the dawn of a new tennis era?

In 2010 every slam won by a player 27 years old or older.
In 2010 every slam finalist was 25 or older.

Sharapova, incidentally, turns 24 this year.

Plenty of the younger players have taken runs at #1, but it isn't translating into slams (AI excepted).

There are only two players under age 25 in the top ten.
There are only eight players under age 25 in the top twenty.

01 11/07/90 Wozniacki
08 28/02/85 Jankovic
12 01/05/87 Peer
14 06/03/89 Radwanska
16 19/04/87 Sharapova
18 03/07/91 Pavlyuchenkova
19 25/01/87 Kirilenko
20 06/11/87 Ivanovic

Changing of the guard? Maybe. But i see no evidence of this.

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