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World #1 scenario after Australian Open

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World No. 2 Vera Zvonareva and No. 3 Kim Clijsters both have chances to overtake current No. 1 Caroline Wozniacki at end of the Australian Open, the WTA reports. Zvonareva must at least reach the Aussie Open final, while if Kim Clijsters wins Sydney, she might only have to reach the final. If Clijsters doesn’t win Sydney, she would have to win the Australian Open. Wozniacki can keep the top spot by reaching the Aussie Open semifinals, regardless of what the other two do.

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I love the situation collide between World #1 and Slam.
But nothing can beat 2008 US Open
So... good luck Kim I hope you win Sydney and then lost the Oz final to Vee

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This is confusing. "only have to reach the final"?

'Zvonareva must at least reach the Aussie Open final, while if Kim Clijsters wins Sydney, she might only have to reach the final'

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Sigh. Saint Kim back to number one soon.

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Re: World #1 scenario after Australian Open

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This is confusing. "only have to reach the final"?

'Zvonareva must at least reach the Aussie Open final, while if Kim Clijsters wins Sydney, she might only have to reach the final'
It makes perfect sense.

Vera needs to reach the AO final = number 1.

If Kim wins Sydney, and reaches AO final = no. 1.
If Kim loses Sydney, win AO = no 1.

I'm just wondering if she lost today, but still won AO, whether she would be no 1.

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It makes perfect sense.

Vera needs to reach the AO final = number 1.

If Kim wins Sydney, and reaches AO final = no. 1.
If Kim loses Sydney, win AO = no 1.

I'm just wondering if she lost today, but still won AO, whether she would be no 1.
As long as Wozniacki does not reach the OZ SF***.

Now it all makes sense.
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It makes perfect sense.

Vera needs to reach the AO final = number 1.

If Kim wins Sydney, and reaches AO final = no. 1.
If Kim loses Sydney, win AO = no 1.

I'm just wondering if she lost today, but still won AO, whether she would be no 1.


I think goldenlox was more confused by the wording. "only" reach the Aussie open final is kind of downplaying it, right? Especially when right before it says Zvonareva must AT LEAST....Clijsters MIGHT ONLY....like its an easy thing to do. By the way, I just happened to make the Aussie Open Finals...NBD.
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Re: World #1 scenario after Australian Open

It's a combination of two things - read it as "The Blessed Saint must WIN the AO, unless she ALSO wins Sydney, in which case she ONLY has to reach the final".
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It's a combination of two things - read it as "The Blessed Saint must WIN the AO, unless she ALSO wins Sydney, in which case she ONLY has to reach the final".


Yeah I get it - but I don't care what you win, ONLY reaching the final still sounds odd.
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Blessed Pud must be the only saint with a butt that sticks out that far

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Some Cp6uja stats might clear all this up

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This is confusing. "only have to reach the final"?

'Zvonareva must at least reach the Aussie Open final, while if Kim Clijsters wins Sydney, she might only have to reach the final'
I think it's trying to make a general statement without having any chances for precise scenarios.

I think it's saying Vera must at least reach the final to have any chances to overtake #1, but depending on what Kim does this week and in Melbourne it might not end up being enough.
For any chance she has to reach the Aussie Open final, but in some scenarios she'll probably need to win.

On the other hand if Clijsters wins Sydney, she will likely regain #1 just by reaching the final regardless of what Vera Z. does. So, it's just more likely points wise, which is why they use the wording that they do. So, I think that is why they are using must at least, and might.

I guess it makes a bit of sense since Vera is defending 4R points and Kim is defending 3R points.
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Re: World #1 scenario after Australian Open

So would a Kim-Vera final be a shootout for #1 if Wozniacki fails to make the SF?
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Sooner or later Kim will be number one again, maybe after AO or after Paris/Indian wells. Its inevitable .
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If You think on Ranking Tracker form which I use in past, here is how it looks for this #1 3-way battle:

9755 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-W
9155 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-F
8665 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-W
8655 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-SF
8515 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-W
8505 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-W
8395 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-W
8255 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-QF
8065 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-F
8035 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-4r
7915 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-3r
7915 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-F
7905 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-F
7855 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-2r
7795 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-F
7760 pts - Caroline Wozniacki AO-1r

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7565 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-SF
7415 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-SF
7405 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-SF
7295 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-SF
7165 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-QF
7015 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-QF
7005 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-QF
6945 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-4r
6895 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-QF
6825 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-3r
6795 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-4r
6785 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-4r
6765 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-2r
6675 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-4r
6675 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-3r
6670 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-W, AO-1r
6665 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-3r
6615 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-2r
6605 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-2r
6555 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-3r
6520 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-F, AO-1r
6510 pts - Vera Zvonareva AO-1r
6495 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-2r
6400 pts - Kim Clijsters Sydney-SF, AO-1r


If Kim and/or Vera achieve better AO result than Caro, but Dane survive at #1 this month, first next big #1 challenge will be at Indian Wells (early March) where Woz defending 2010 final.

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