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Exclamation C.Wozniacki most impressive W/L stats: 31-7 in 3-setters, 93-4 after 1st set wins

I don't like her game style, but she deserve big credit for consistent results 2nd season in the row, and this 1990 born girl is actually very good thing which is happen to WTA tour where veterans dominate so cruelly (for example 26yo Vera Zvonareva is 2010 youngest GS finalist). Also after golden period for Western European womens tennis which started with Steffi Graf era (followed by ESP Arantxa and Conchita, FRA Pierce and Mauresmo, Hingis, and BEL Henin and Clijsters) we have after 1983-born Clijsters several generations of WE players without ability even at least to reach TOP10, and now with Caro we have GS contender (especially when sisters-Belgians will retire) and probably very soon #1 ranked player, which is very good news for womens tennis, especially if we know how Americans after 1981-born Serena also sucks generation by generation. And whatever we thinks about her game style, she has arguable great and very positive and likable personality, which is another reason why she is very good for WTA now.

Nobody can be TOP2 ranked 2nd year in the row just like that or "without weapons" like so many times we heard here about Caroline. So I decide to open this thread which is focused on two aspects of tennis game which is in Wozniacki case real weapons - combination of great fitness and mental stability. Tennis players which have this two skills on permanent basis always have great 3-setter stats and Caroline Wozniacki is perfect proof.

Since Caroline Wozniacki rise her level into TOP10 player (since April of 2009) her W-L in three setters are amazing 31-7 82% (11-2 vs TOP15 opponents), and in same period she won 93 out of 97 matches where she won opening set!



Caroline Wozniacki 3-setters since April 2009:
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 Kim Clijsters (BEL) beat Caroline Wozniacki 3-6 7-5 3-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Franceska Schiavone (ITA) 3-6 6-1 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Vera Zvonareva (RUS) 6-3 3-6 6-3
Caroline Wozniacki beat Elena Dementieva (RUS) 1-6 6-2 6-3
Caroline Wozniacki beat Victoria Azarenka (BLR) 6-2 6-7(3) 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Nadia Petrova (RUS) 6-3 3-6 6-3
Caroline Wozniacki beat Elena Dementieva (RUS) 1-6 6-3 7-6(5)
Caroline Wozniacki beat Flavia Pennetta (ITA) 4-6 6-3 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Anna Chakvetadze (RUS) 6-1 2-6 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Julia Goerges (GER) 3-6 6-0 7-6(3)
Caroline Wozniacki beat Iveta Benesova (CZE) 4-6 6-2 6-0
 Aravane Rezai (FRA) beat Caroline Wozniacki 4-6 6-1 3-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Flavia Pennetta (ITA) 7-6(5) 6-7(4) 6-2
Caroline Wozniacki beat Polona Hercog (SLO) 2-6 6-3 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Elena Vesnina (RUS) 1-6 7-6(4) 6-4
 Justine Henin (BEL) beat Caroline Wozniacki 7-6(5) 3-6 4-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Maria Kirilenko (RUS) 1-6 6-1 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL) 3-6 6-3 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Jie Zheng (CHN) 6-4 4-6 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Nadia Petrova (RUS) 6-3 3-6 6-0
Caroline Wozniacki beat Vania King (USA) 5-7 6-2 6-4
 Na Li (CHN) beat Caroline Wozniacki 6-2 3-6 2-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Vera Zvonareva (RUS) 6-0 6-7(3) 6-4               2009
Caroline Wozniacki beat Victoria Azarenka (BLR) 1-6 6-4 7-5
 Samantha Stosur (AUS) beat Caroline Wozniacki 0-6 6-4 4-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN) 6-2 6-7(1) 6-2
 Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez (ESP) beat Caroline Wozniacki 7-6(5) 6-7(2) 0-6
Caroline Wozniacki beat Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) 2-6 7-6(5) 7-6(3)
Caroline Wozniacki beat Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN) 4-6 6-4 6-4
 Sorana Cirstea (ROU) beat Caroline Wozniacki 6-1 4-6 6-7(5)
Caroline Wozniacki beat Flavia Pennetta (ITA) 6-3 4-6 6-2
Caroline Wozniacki beat Kimiko Date Krumm (JPN) 5-7 6-3 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN) 3-6 6-4 6-4
Caroline Wozniacki beat Samantha Stosur (AUS) 6-1 5-7 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Vera Dushevina (RUS) 4-6 7-5 6-1
Caroline Wozniacki beat Elena Dementieva (RUS) 6-4 5-7 7-5
Caroline Wozniacki beat Elena Vesnina (RUS) 2-6 6-3 7-6(4)
Caroline Wozniacki beat Samantha Stosur (AUS) 6-3 6-7(4) 6-1

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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Re: Caroline Wozniacki impressive 3-setters stats

In general, she won 23 of her last 25 matches, so her numbers are going to be good.

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Then comes a major..and flupss...she folds like a pancake.

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In general, she won 23 of her last 25 matches, so her numbers are going to be good.

You're posting this all the time in her every single thread
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Is Wozniacki looking a little like a young Nadal?

I mean, she has such good defensive abilities, getting a lot of ball back and rarely being in position to let her opponent hit a winner. She is also so patient in the rallies, using more topspin than the average to control her opponent and to try to move her to find an opening and she will only use his offensive skills when she has found that opening. She is making few errors and get totally into the opponent who feels trapped and powerless.

The big difference I see is that Nadal always was the best and by far on clay where it seems that Wozniacki best surface is hardcourt and she does not seem to perform well on clay.

Obviously Nadal is stronger and is way more powerful with his forehand, he is more powerful than most men and Caro is a women.... But I was comparing their style of play.

That's why I found that Wozniacki looked a little like the Nadal of 2005 (not the current one who is a much more complete player and is using his scary offensives weapons) and I was wondering if she could evolve in the same direction he did.
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In general, she won 23 of her last 25 matches, so her numbers are going to be good.
This stats is about her's last 125+ matches (where she lose more than 30), not just about last 25 , and even her overall career stats are pretty amazing. Most of tennis experts blame physical factor why young under-20 players have by far worse results on WTA Tour than teenagers in past, but You are not impressed how 1990-born Wozniacki even dominate whole tour in that area playing last 2 seasons more events and matches than any other elite WTA player and has so impressive W/L record in long matches (3-setters).

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Then comes a major..and flupss...she folds like a pancake.
Actually almost all this 3-set loses in this period coming from MM events (or 600K premier). Only exception is Miami/10 3-setter lose vs Justine Henin

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

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Thanks to OP for the stat update. The 'she won 83 out of 87 matches where she won opening set!' is impressive and paired with her strength in 3 setters, it sort of fits with my own perceived wisdom: To win Vs Caro, you have to finish her off in 2 sets. Blitz her like Franny was able to do in RG and Kvitova in W'don.

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Is Wozniacki looking a little like a young Nadal?


That's why I found that Wozniacki looked a little like the Nadal of 2005 (not the current one who is a much more complete player and is using his scary offensives weapons) and I was wondering if she could evolve in the same direction he did.
Most certainly. Only difference is Nadal did it by being better than the others, Wozniacki will do it by being less shitty than the others.

Players currently within four years (age wise) of Wozniacki:

Radwanska
Azarenka
Sharapova (with a bad shoulder already)
Rezai
Peer
Pavlyuchenkova
Wickmayer
Kirilenko
Kleybanova
Dulgheru
Ivanovic
Bacsinszky
Shvedova
Safarova
Kvitova
Pironkova
Cibulkova
Petkovic
Szavay
Errani
Groth
Goerges
Safina
Styrcova

The prospect of Safarova and Cibulkova in the top 10, Radwanska and Rezai in the top 5. Ah good times ahead.

- Caroline Wozniacki has never beaten a reigning world #1.
- Caroline Wozniacki has never beaten a top 5 player at a major.
- Caroline Wozniacki has not beaten a top 3 player en route to any of her 23 titles.
- Caroline Wozniacki has beaten two top 5 players en route to her 23 titles (#4 Zvonareva and #5 Schiavone)

-Her fans think she had very bad luck with her Grand Slam and Regular Tour draws.
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So Wozniacki is not a fluke?
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Is Wozniacki looking a little like a young Nadal?

I mean, she has such good defensive abilities, getting a lot of ball back and rarely being in position to let her opponent hit a winner. She is also so patient in the rallies, using more topspin than the average to control her opponent and to try to move her to find an opening and she will only use his offensive skills when she has found that opening. She is making few errors and get totally into the opponent who feels trapped and powerless.

The big difference I see is that Nadal always was the best and by far on clay where it seems that Wozniacki best surface is hardcourt and she does not seem to perform well on clay.

Obviously Nadal is stronger and is way more powerful with his forehand, he is more powerful than most men and Caro is a women.... But I was comparing their style of play.

That's why I found that Wozniacki looked a little like the Nadal of 2005 (not the current one who is a much more complete player and is using his scary offensives weapons) and I was wondering if she could evolve in the same direction he did.
Wozniacki is 20 and still not a major winner nor the best on any surface.So definitely not.
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she most definitely is
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she most definitely is

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Most certainly. Only difference is Nadal did it by being better than the others, Wozniacki will do it by being less shitty than the others.

Players currently within four years (age wise) of Wozniacki:

Radwanska
Azarenka
Sharapova (with a bad shoulder already)
Rezai
Peer
Pavlyuchenkova
Wickmayer
Kirilenko
Kleybanova
Dulgheru
Ivanovic
Bacsinszky
Shvedova
Safarova
Kvitova
Pironkova
Cibulkova
Petkovic
Szavay
Errani
Groth
Goerges
Safina
Styrcova

The prospect of Safarova and Cibulkova in the top 10, Radwanska and Rezai in the top 5. Ah good times ahead.
Aww, things are not that bleak. Some of the players on your list will almost certainly get much better and there are some great young players out there that we've never heard of yet. I think the future of the women's game will be fine.
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Thanks to OP for the stat update. The 'she won 83 out of 87 matches where she won opening set!' is impressive and paired with her strength in 3 setters, it sort of fits with my own perceived wisdom: To win Vs Caro, you have to finish her off in 2 sets. Blitz her like Franny was able to do in RG and Kvitova in W'don.
2 of them are against jankovich xD
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This not surprising.

1. She is one of the mentally toughest players out there.
2. Her game has little risk so she is able to be incredibly consistent.

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