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Martina Navratilova 66 51.16%
Steffi Graf 63 48.84%
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post #1 of 98 (permalink) Old Sep 30th, 2010, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
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Real #1 of 1987-Navratilova or Graf?

Real #1 of 1987-Navratilova or Graf?

1987: Martina Navratilova
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1987: Steffi Graf
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Martina is great.


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Re: Real #1 of 1987-Navratilova or Graf?

You forgot to mention that the only 2 matches Steffi lost all year were the Wimbledon and US Open finals to Martina.

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Definitely Graf. Martina's slam results dont overcome that she only won 4 tournaments all years (2 non slam events) to 12 for Graf. Graf lost only 2 matches all year, granted huge matches being the Wimbledon and U.S Open final, but I forget how many Martina lost but it was a huge number.
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Martina is great.
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Steffi's got the numbers BUT Pam Shriver actually mentioned after the US Open Final that there were two number ones "the computer #1 and the #1 for most people in the locker room". Yes people, this #1 moaning was happening even back then with Steffi Graf and Martina Navratilova as the top two players!!!

I agree with Pam to be honest. If not so much now, back then I think Martina was the "real #1". It's similar to Justine and Amelie in 2006. Justine/Steffi got the numbers, the statistical invincibility, but Amelie/Martina got the slams

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Steffi's got the numbers BUT Pam Shriver actually mentioned after the US Open Final that there were two number ones "the computer #1 and the #1 for most people in the locker room - because you can't win the two biggest tournaments in the world and not be number one" - to paraphrase.

I agree with Pam to be honest. If not so much now, back then I think Martina was the "real #1". It's similar to Justine and Amelie in 2006. Justine/Steffi got the numbers, the statistical invincibility, but Amelie/Martina got the slams
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Shriver is a notorious Graf hater and Martina's best friend so she is hardly a credible source. There is no similarity to Henin/Mauresmo in 2006. Henin didnt lose only 2 matches in 2006 and didnt win 8 more tournaments than Mauresmo. And even then there are many who feel Henin deserved #1 in 2006.
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I can't vote against Steffi.

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Martina is the greatest
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Re: Real #1 of 1987-Navratilova or Graf?

Too young to remember the intricacies of the ranking system in 1987 and 'who did what better than someone else', but I do remember that these two were head and shoulders above the pack. As an 8 year old I did think Martina was the better player and deserved number 1 (because at that age I only thought the tour consisted of RG, Wimbledon, US Open and the inferior AO at the time), so I'll stick with that

Good arguments for both though, and I had no idea Steffi was so dominant that year until reading this thread. 1987 was clearly her "look out bitches, I'm here" year.
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Steffi all the way and it's not even close.
Martina had a good year though.

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