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Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

I didn't say could she *be* in the Top 5, but could she - with say 6-9 months of training - beat the Top 5?

I would say yes to all 5, depending on surface. Even as a 40 year old.

People need to seriously re-evaluate when they said the 90s were weak. If Martina were 10-15 year younger, I would say the same thing.
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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

OF course and all of them.
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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

She could have some interesting wins here and there but not on aregular basis

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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

I honestly don't think she could. I said why in another thread. She could probably make the top 100 but I doubt she would go much further. Just because Date-Krumm has made the top 50 at almost 40 years old doesn't mean anyone else can. Yes Steffi in her mid 20s >>> Kimiko in her mid 20s. But that does not mean Steffi at 40 >>> Kimiko at 40. It simply does not work that way.

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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

You guys really think she could beat Serena right now?

She prolly could beat Venus on clay and she def could beat Woz, Vera and JJ on all surfaces but not consistently. That much I give you.
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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

Yes, she could. But her body wouldn't allow her play a full season, with all the injuries she's suffered.

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I didn't say could she *be* in the Top 5, but could she - with say 6-9 months of training - beat the Top 5?

2. I would say yes to all 5, depending on surface. Even as a 40 year old.

1. People need to seriously re-evaluate when they said the 90s were weak. If Martina were 10-15 year younger, I would say the same thing.
1) When they said that, they weren't talking about Steffi.

2) Based on what? Her recent form? We have no idea how the Steffi Graf game would even come together as a 40 year old in 2010. The game is, generally speaking, as far removed from how it was when she won the French Open in 1999, as Hingis' Australian Open winning game of 1999 was from her 2006 incarnation.

That said, you don't bet against Steffi Graf and when you look at who the top 5 routinely lose to...you'd be stupid to.

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You guys really think she could beat Serena right now?

She prolly could beat Venus on clay and she def could beat Woz, Vera and JJ on all surfaces but not consistently. That much I give you.
The likes of Elena Dementieva, Jelena Jankovic, Nadia Petrova, Sam Stosur did it this year. Why wouldn't Graf be able to do it?
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The likes of Elena Dementieva, Jelena Jankovic, Nadia Petrova, Sam Stosur did it this year. Why wouldn't Graf be able to do it?
Since Serena's pride would pump her up to give it her all against a 40 year old Graf if they played, even in some minor tournament. She would not want a loss to a 40 year old Graf on her resume anywhere. When she plays those people you mentioned in the non slam events she often isnt that into it. OK she lost to Stosur on clay at the French, but Stosur is probably better on clay than a 40 year old Graf would be.
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The people who think she could are deluded.

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If they were injured, sure. Otherwise i doubt it.

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The likes of Elena Dementieva, Jelena Jankovic, Nadia Petrova, Sam Stosur did it this year. Why wouldn't Graf be able to do it?


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Re: Could Steffi Graf Beat Top-5 Players Now?

Graf was only a top 5 player when she left the tour in 1999 at 30 really. Hingis and Davenport were overall better, and Venus and Serena were about on par with her at that point. Granted I know that the field was much stronger than today, but I dont know how she would do nearly as well at 41 as she did at 30 even against a much weaker field. And I am a big Graf fan.

The field today does suck royally, maybe the worst ever, but a 41 year old Steffi would still be nowhere near the top 5. As others have said she might not even better than Date today as players age differently. Date killed her in an exhibition match 2 years ago, though Date was practicing getting ready for her comeback already unlike Steffi.
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Graf of the 90's yes, Graf now... She got thrashed in 2008 by Kimiko Date and she wasn't even as half fit as she is now

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