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Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

It's really annoying and disrespectful to see some big names of this game, which sells tickets and push on higher level every event which they entry - in same group with some protected local girls (losers?) and that is never happen so often like in current era of womens tennis. So WC Clijsters won last US Open, WC Henin reach final at last Australian Open (even International level event in Stuttgart where she reach title Justine must to play with that disrespectful "WC" remark). When great Martina Hingis come back in 2006 she must to play like WC Hingis, and before AO/2007 where she reach title like #81 ranked Serena XXI-GOAT Williams must to play like WC several 2006 WTA events!? Maria Sharapova WTA superstar with global celebrity status was arguable by far biggest name and star at last seasons Warsaw Open, but thanks to temporary rankings problems which she has in that time there is also that annoying WC part right to her name... etc... etc... (there is for sure some other examples). So do You think this confusion about participation of WTA biggest stars (former #1 & slam champs) should be ended and theirs commitments when they is in some temporary bad ranking problem should be presented on different way (not like for all others Wild Cards)?

Here is some GS Entry Lists examples (at smaller events it looks even more ridiculous) from near past how that should looks in future:

Australian Open 2006:
WC Martina Hingis
VIP Martina Hingis
WC Lauren Breadmore
WC Sophie Ferguson...etc...

US Open 2006:
WC Serena Williams
VIP Serena Williams
WC Jessica Kirkland
WC Laurin Albanese
WC Alexa Glatch...etc...

US Open 2009:
WC Kim Clijsters
VIP Kim Clijsters
WC Mallory Cecil
WC Gail Brodsky
WC Christina McHale...etc...

Australian Open 2010:
WC Justine Henin
VIP Justine Henin
WC Stephanie Cohen-Aloro
WC Coco Vandeweghe...etc...

Do You agree?

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

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It's really annoying and disrespectful to see some big names of this game, which sells tickets and push on higher level every event which they entry - in same group with some protected local girls (losers?) and that is never happen so often like in current era of womens tennis.
Ana is a LOSER now. Get OVA it!

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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

It's a tennis tournament, not a red carpet.

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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

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Ana is a LOSER now. Get OVA it!

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Ana Jovanovic and her WC's has nothing with this thread

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Ana Jovanovic and her WC's has nothing with this thread
I was talking about VIPANA.

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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

I don't think it really matters We'll all still know it means the same thing: their ranking isn't high enough.

WC or VIP will both = not ranked high enough

If you start calling it something different, you run into the problem of how many. Right now, there's a set number of WCs per tournament. So, if one of those turns into a VIP, do you add in another WC? So if Hingis makes a comeback at the 2010 US Open as a VIP, does another "loser" (as you put it) get put into the draw? So, if that happens, then who gets taken out of the draw, someone who is actually ranked high enough to play there?

And, do you automatically give former champs and number ones VIP entries? In my opinion, if someone like Ivanovic falls below the cut off and can't get into the tournament, she shouldn't automatically get a WC into a tournament. The situation with Henin, Clijsters, Hingis, even Navratilova when she returned a few years ago was that they were former champions making a comeback. The WC was supposed to help them out, and also give them a deserved spot in the main draw. But if someone like Ivanovic, who has had a complete collapse, can't even get into the main draw because she's playing like absolute shit, why should she get a WC or "VIP"? The same could be said of Kuznetsova, or Safina, etc. In other words, my point here is... Once you call it something different and set former champions apart from the "losers," it's expected that they will always get that special treatment. Where does it stop? Someone like Henin deserves a WC over any youngster or home player, but someone like Safina doesn't, the way she's playing now.

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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

I think that would be a bad idea, it creates elitism in the draw
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God Cp6uja you are even a bigger mess than Ana's game.
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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

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Lucic fan... I think You not realize all benefits of my OP suggestion. For example former ITF-JUNIORS#1 and JUNIORS GS-winners at ITF Challengers also should to have VIP remark instead WC.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

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I was talking about VIPANA.
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Re: Should WTA needs to start to use "VIP" mark instead "WC" for former #1&GS champs?

If Ana was a top 10, you wouldn't even open these threads.

Some "local girls (losers?)" are playing at an higher level than former-GS winner/poor results in Berlin & Rome/brunette with a good forehand Ana Ivanovic.
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No.
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ana ivanovic will needs that VIP soon enough or she'll retired...L.O.L

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Maybe you need to write it to them??

why dont you give it a try...
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