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Venus-Hingis Rivalry

I'm going to their press conferences and WTT match tonight, and wanted some help with getting as much as I can from the glory days of their rivalry.

What were some of the most controversial/memorable/ridiculous things they said about each other off the court, and what was the context?

If there's video, all the more better

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Just know that Hingis was an established, European #1, and she hated poor Venus as the up and coming American.

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I'm going to their press conferences and WTT match tonight, and wanted some help with getting as much as I can from the glory days of their rivalry.

What were some of the most controversial/memorable/ridiculous things they said about each other off the court, and what was the context?

If there's video, all the more better
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You really think Europe vs. America had much to do with it?

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You really think Europe vs. America had much to do with it?
Well, they were both women. I mean, there was nothing else different about Hingis and Venus. Who cares that many American fans started rooting for Hingis after decades of rooting for the "real American" Chrissie over MN.

I don't see any other reason they would root against Venus.

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Hingis regularly embarassed Venus, whether it was the numerous non-competitive beatdowns or her clear residence in Williams psyche. Look at Venus' celebrations after beating Hingis in Miami 1998 ("raising the roof") and USO 2000 (smack-talking during on-court interview); probably among the most graceless moments of Venus' career. Look at her pained expression when faced with defeat from Hingis in USO 1997 and USO 1999; I've never seen such bitter looks on the normally "icey" elder sister's face. Venus, and her loud-mouthed father ("all venus has to do to win is show up," and then Hingis wins 6-4 6-0, or "I know a drug dealer who can saw off Hingis' legs") had a clear resentment for Martina.

Hingis, on the other hand, didn't take things quite as seriously. Her quick-witted one-liners ("what rivals?") were said in humor; and let's face it, Venus has NEVER been known for her humor. She just didn't "get it" and neither did her dad or sister.

I think one defining moment came during the USO 1997 final; Hingis was blitzing her less talented rival, and when Venus hit another shot long, Hingis pretended to swing at the ball in the air (as if to say "this is so easy, you must need me to help you"). It garnered a chuckle from the crowd and Hingis was obviously amused at herself. Or when she held up Venus' fallen beads like a trophy for reporters. What Hingis considered friendly jabs, the Williams camp considered horrible slights. They took Martina really freakin seriously and I wouldn't be suprised if Venus still dealt with mental issues from her damaged psyche at 17/18 years of age.

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Hingis regularly embarassed Venus, whether it was the numerous non-competitive beatdowns or her clear residence in Williams psyche. Look at Venus' celebrations after beating Hingis in Miami 1998 ("raising the roof") and USO 2000 (smack-talking during on-court interview); probably among the most graceless moments of Venus' career. Look at her pained expression when faced with defeat from Hingis in USO 1997 and USO 1999; I've never seen such bitter looks on the normally "icey" elder sister's face. Venus, and her loud-mouthed father ("all venus has to do to win is show up," and then Hingis wins 6-4 6-0, or "I know a drug dealer who can saw off Hingis' legs") had a clear resentment for Martina.

Hingis, on the other hand, didn't take things quite as seriously. Her quick-witted one-liners ("what rivals?") were said in humor; and let's face it, Venus has NEVER been known for her humor. She just didn't "get it" and neither did her dad or sister.

I think one defining moment came during the USO 1997 final; Hingis was blitzing her less talented rival, and when Venus hit another shot long, Hingis pretended to swing at the ball in the air (as if to say "this is so easy, you must need me to help you"). It garnered a chuckle from the crowd and Hingis was obviously amused at herself. Or when she held up Venus' fallen beads like a trophy for reporters. What Hingis considered friendly jabs, the Williams camp considered horrible slights. They took Martina really freakin seriously and I wouldn't be suprised if Venus still dealt with mental issues from her damaged psyche at 17/18 years of age.
Meanwhile, Venus had the last laugh--- she is still around with nothing embarrassing on her tennis resume to this date


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Meanwhile, Venus had the last laugh--- she is still around with nothing embarrassing on her tennis resume to this date
......and ended up being the better player. Martina's career is beginning to look like she was a transitional player that bridged the gap between WS and Henin.


Listen this rivalry is very heated, much like the Serena and Jen rivalry. Neither opponent wants to loose to the other player and that is why I think this match will be more intense than your average exhibition match.

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I think one defining moment came during the USO 1997 final; Hingis was blitzing her less talented rival, and when Venus hit another shot long, Hingis pretended to swing at the ball in the air (as if to say "this is so easy, you must need me to help you"). It garnered a chuckle from the crowd and Hingis was obviously amused at herself. Or when she held up Venus' fallen beads like a trophy for reporters. What Hingis considered friendly jabs, the Williams camp considered horrible slights. They took Martina really freakin seriously and I wouldn't be suprised if Venus still dealt with mental issues from her damaged psyche at 17/18 years of age.
I wasn't plannig on postig in this thread but all this makes it very difficult to ignore. For your information '97 was no defining moment for Venus because she had just completed high school at 17(something Hingis should have tried)while Hingis was playing the tour from 14 and #1 at the time. In any case tennis is not for the swift but for those who endured to the end. It would seem as if your psyche is more damaged to consider Hingis' little jabs had any effect on Venus' life what so ever. Just keep that load of garbage for your Venus envy friends because Venus on and off the court is way better than Hingis in everything she does.

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[QUOTE=brickhousesupporter;18118846]......and ended up being the better player. Martina's career is beginning to look like she was a transitional player that bridged the gap between WS and Henin.


True, and a little sad as I loved Martina at the time. The interview Martina gave on the BBC last week with Sue Barker also seemed sad. Kournikova was bubbly and happy and when asked what her passions were now she listed her charity work and other things. Martina seemed down and didn't have a lot to say. I think she is really bruised following the you know what incident and the ban. She looked a little broken to me.

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Hingis picking up Venus' beads. What the fuck is that, you ain't no janitor bitch, leave 'em on the ground.


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Meanwhile, Venus had the last laugh--- she is still around with nothing embarrassing on her tennis resume to this date
Noooooooo she's had some horrible defeats in the last times and I'm a Venus fan I'm gonna enjoy Martina and Venus' match but I think Venus will thrash her

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