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View Poll Results: Who's the 2nd best playe right now?
Jankovic 39 19.02%
Wozniacki 11 5.37%
Venus 56 27.32%
Stosur 13 6.34%
Clijsters 56 27.32%
Schiavone 1 0.49%
Zvonareva 5 2.44%
Henin 24 11.71%
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post #1 of 115 (permalink) Old Jul 7th, 2010, 04:49 AM Thread Starter
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Who's the second best female singles player in the world today?

Okay, so why her?

Figure the best is Serena. You can argue about that, but it's an argument you'll lose most of the time. Anybody who reads this forum regularly knows I don't think much of the ranking system. However, at the moment, #2 ranked Jelena Jankovic, at 5900 points, is marginally closer to #13 Henin than she is to #1 Serena. Serena is the best player by any objective measure. Right now.


Candidates for #2.


The other two current slam champs. Clijsters and Schiavone
The four slam current slam finalists. Henin, Stosur, Wozniacki and Zvonareva
The top five ranked players in 12 month rankings: Serena, JJ, Venus, Wozniacki and Stosur


Slam performance tells you who does best when everyone is peaking, ranking tells who does best week-to-week.


By 12 month rank (rk) and race rank (rc)

rk rc
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02 03 Jankovic
03 08 Wozniacki
04 02 Venus
05 04 Stosur
07 13 Clijsters
08 06 Schiavone
09 07 Zvonareva
13 05 Henin


Remember, all I'm doing is trying to make sure I include the second best player on the tour in the group. The arguments for each player are NOT equally strong.

And remember, it's about NOW. Venus Williams and Justine Henin have very strong resumes. But they both have to reach back a couple years for a slam win.

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Re: Who's the second best female singles player in the world today?

Jelena Jankovic.

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JJ for sure

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Re: Who's the second best female singles player in the world today?

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Jelena Jankovic.
Just to move the thread along, why is a player who hasn't made a slam final in the last seven slams better than those that did? Fact is, she's only made it past the fourth round once in those seven slams. Winning Indian Wells is nice, but IW is, in effect, Dubai, not Madrid.

Why her?

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JJ she is always consistent.. She will most likely take Serena's ranking b4 the year is up she has so little to defend for the rest of the year... Just a Final in Tokyo and semi in Doha...

Jelena Jankovic
- She used to know how to play tennis...
Jumping over career opportunities since 2006...
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As her fans watch in awe at her ability to fuck that up...

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Just to move the thread along, why is a player who hasn't made a slam final in the last seven slams better than those that did? Fact is, she's only made it past the fourth round once in those seven slams. Winning Indian Wells is nice, but IW is, in effect, Dubai, not Madrid.

Why her?
yeah so this statement definietly makes Schiavone and Stosur way better than her on a regular basis....

Jelena Jankovic
- She used to know how to play tennis...
Jumping over career opportunities since 2006...
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As her fans watch in awe at her ability to fuck that up...

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in a two weeks serena won't even seem like the no.1 when she startrs losing routinely in the tour events. I think stosur despite her early wimby loss, it wasn't a bad loss- she came up against kanepi in rd 1, had she played someone else, she would probably have gone deep.
I suspect she still she still has the most wins on the tour for this year-

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Re: Who's the second best female singles player in the world today?

Is this like at this very point in time who's the second best, or who's been the best in the past year to deserve being called second best?
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Jelena Jankovic.

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in a two weeks serena won't even seem like the no.1 when she startrs losing routinely in the tour events. I think stosur despite her early wimby loss, it wasn't a bad loss- she came up against kanepi in rd 1, had she played someone else, she would probably have gone deep.
I suspect she still she still has the most wins on the tour for this year-
AYFK? It was a horrible loss. Sammy-GOAT should've been able to handle 11-match losing streak girl any day of the week.

I voted for Venus.
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JJ she is always consistent.. She will most likely take Serena's ranking b4 the year is up she has so little to defend for the rest of the year... Just a Final in Tokyo and semi in Doha...
Serena leads her in the YEC race 5355 to 3717 and in the 52 week rankings 8475 to 5900. Serena would basically have to not play the USO for that to happen.
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At her best, I think it's Venus. She's looked second best to me this year a lot of times but has had some very strange matches this year at really important times like Miami, Rome, Madrid, Wimbledon, etc. so I really don't know what to make of form right now, and because of that inconsistency I can't rank her second.

Other than Venus, I look at who I see to be a threat to Serena at the slams. The only players I'm really worried might beat Serena at a major right now outside the French are Kim and Justine.

So because Justine's injured, I guess I would say Kim, even though her form's not great right now.

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Jelena Jankovic is the second-best female singles player in the world, because the WTA Tour ranking computer says so. How Volcana, I or anyone else feels about that doesn't matter. Next topic, please.

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Jelena Jankovic is the second-best female singles player in the world, because the WTA Tour ranking computer says so. How Volcana, I or anyone else feels about that doesn't matter. Next topic, please.

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Jelena Jankovic is the second-best female singles player in the world, because the WTA Tour ranking computer says so. How Volcana, I or anyone else feels about that doesn't matter. Next topic, please.
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