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Who is for a 5 set semi/final? *hands up*

it is so hard for a 3 set match to be "great", the press are always going to prefer a 5 set match

the women can go 5 sets, imo it would get rid of some of the nerves and make for better matches

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Yes, although if the women have this many injuries with 2/3 set matches...then god help the WTA Tour if they had to even deal with 5 set SF/F.
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it is so hard for a 3 set match to be "great", the press are always going to prefer a 5 set match

the women can go 5 sets, imo it would get rid of some of the nerves and make for better matches

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^ There are plenty of 3 sets matches that are great, even two set matches. It depends on whether the players are evenly matched. Anyway, I don't expect any great 5 setters coming from anyone meeting Serena... the average scores would be 60 61 61 every time

On the flip, I think the men should play fewer 5 setters. Too many of them end like this year's Wimby semis

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^ There are plenty of 3 sets matches that are great, even two set matches. It depends on whether the players are evenly matched. Anyway, I don't expect any great 5 setters coming from anyone meeting Serena... the average scores would be 60 61 61 every time

On the flip, I think the men should play fewer 5 setters. Too many of them end like this year's Wimby semis :bored:
agree with you on the mens side

i think a 6-3 6-4 match can be great but tbf in the "normal" mind a tennis match is only great if it goes beyond 7-5 in the 3rd. a 5 set match would fix that
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agree with you on the mens side

i think a 6-3 6-4 match can be great but tbf in the "normal" mind a tennis match is only great if it goes beyond 7-5 in the 3rd. a 5 set match would fix that
God save us from normal minds. That's five steps down from TF 75 in the 3rd set, to 16 in the 4th or 16 06 in the 5th. Typical men's match.

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it is so hard for a 3 set match to be "great", the press are always going to prefer a 5 set match
I disagree. We've seen many great three-setters. The problem is we're seeing too many two setters, or three setters with a bad set in them.

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God save us from normal minds. That's five steps down from TF 75 in the 3rd set, to 16 in the 4th or 16 06 in the 5th. Typical men's match.
im with ya but normal minds is what the womens game has to impress and it isnt doin it atm

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I disagree. We've seen many great three-setters. The problem is we're seeing too many two setters, or three setters with a bad set in them.
i agree, but its all about what the general public think tbf and atm it aint good
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No! they go for too long. I would prefer it if all matched, mens included was best of 3 sets.
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I'd take it one step further, and go with best-of-five sets from the 4th round/quarterfinals onward. The schedule at that point in the tournament would certainly allow for it. Most of the women have the endurance for it. Does it necessarily garrantee a good match? No. But it would certainly shut up the detractors of the women's game about the equal pay/equal work BS argument. It would also give the perception that the viewer is getting their "money's worth".
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No! they go for too long. I would prefer it if all matched, mens included was best of 3 sets.
No way. Two sets down miraculous comebacks in Slams are THE BEST. And the crowd tends to get very involved. (Murray vs Gasquet in Wimbledon 2008, for instance.)

*hands up* I like the idea of bo5 for women's Slam finals, yes. May help Slam final virgins get rid of the nervousness.

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Doesn't work - even Graf couldn't play 5 sets without taking one off after one on at the YEC when they had 5 sets,.
Would make Serena's GS matches look like drawn out executions rather than walkovers.
Wouldn't solve the basic problem that most of the top 20 are underperforming - would make it worse in many ways.
Would increase Serena's advantages. She turns up fresh after relaxing for most of the year and some poor sap who has been working out there on the tour arrives injure, tired and out of shape and somehow has to play her for 5 sets.
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I'd take it one step further, and go with best-of-five sets from the 4th round/quarterfinals onward. The schedule at that point in the tournament would certainly allow for it. Most of the women have the endurance for it. Does it necessarily garrantee a good match? No. But it would certainly shut up the detractors of the women's game about the equal pay/equal work BS argument. It would also give the perception that the viewer is getting their "money's worth".
This.

5 set matches are so much better because it means that there's a better chance of a seeded player dropping a set just out of losing concentration/lower ranked player losing inhibitions which brings about more excitement. Also, it means that there's a better chance of the top players making it through to the end of the tournament because there's a longer time period for them to find their form and pick up their games while losing.

I think it should at least be tried out. If it doesn't work whatever reason then it can always go back to 3 sets, but I would love to see them try it out.
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I think it should at least be tried out. If it doesn't work whatever reason then it can always go back to 3 sets, but I would love to see them try it out.

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No way. Two sets down miraculous comebacks in Slams are THE BEST. And the crowd tends to get very involved. (Murray vs Gasquet in Wimbledon 2008, for instance.)

*hands up* I like the idea of bo5 for women's Slam finals, yes. May help Slam final virgins get rid of the nervousness.
Not necessarily. Kvitova had a "miraculous" comback against Kanepi in 3 sets. Besides 3 sets mean that you'd better come out blazing in the first set and not round assing and goldbricking.

WTF is ths business about professional players needing a set to get rid of nerves. If you're a pro suck it up and deal with it.

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