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ESPN The Pulse: Serena in discussion as best women's player ever?

A poll was posted on ESPN pulse and the four choices were:

Who is the greatest women's tennis player of all time?

1)Chris Evert - 7%
2)Serena Williams - 35%
3)Martina Navratilova - 42%
4)Other - 16%

Do you agree? Wow. No Steffi?

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Bias Americans Nope. Long way to go to parallel those achievements.

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I think with her serve and her athleticism, her power, her court mobility, I just think when she’s on, she’s the greatest player we’ve ever seen, ever. Now, whether her record is the greatest remains to be seen because she hasn’t retired yet. But I think she is really the greatest player. I have seen Martina and Steffi at their best. There are little chinks in those players’ armor, but it was a different era, where you didn’t need to be the perfect player.
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Oh dear. This poll just emmitted the GOAT.
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Graf not an option


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that couldn't possibly be a legitimate poll. no way.

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Graf not an option
That's ESPN for you. Martina's only in it because she naturalized, otherwise Chris and Serena would be the only options.
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Graf hands down is the GOAT. Not just because of weeks @ #1, titles, but she's the only player to win each major a MINIMUM of four times. Not just greatest player but greatest all-court player of all time.

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Only if your memory goes back as far as 1999.

She has half of Court's GOAT total. 10 less than Graf. 6 behind Nav and Evert. Id rank her at #5.
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We had this discussion a few weeks ago, and the general consensus among the non-Serena-obsessives was that she needs 8 more Slams including 2 FO's at the very least before she even gets in the discussion.
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No Steffi makes this poll an immediate joke. Serena can definitely be in the conversation, but the poll is pretty flawed when you leave out someone of Steffi's stature.
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That's ESPN for you. Martina's only in it because she naturalized, otherwise Chris and Serena would be the only options.
hilarious but true.

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No Steffi makes this poll an immediate joke. Serena can definitely be in the conversation, but the poll is pretty flawed when you leave out someone of Steffi's stature.
exactly. great post.

serena is the best of her generation though but that's not the poll question so...

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that couldn't possibly be a legitimate poll. no way.
Could a legit ESPN poll. All they listed were Americans.

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In terms on talent and ability, I am willing to say that Serena is the greatest ever.

In terms of achievement, clearly not.
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In terms on talent and ability, I am willing to say that Serena is the greatest ever.

In terms of achievement, clearly not.
This is a legitimate argument and people can have their own opinion - but this thread isn't about "Who is the GOAT" but rather "How retarded is ESPN".
You can make a legit case for any of the players (Evert, Navratilova, Williams), but to clump Steffi Graf into "others" is just plain rubbish.
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