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Why such low crowds for the women?










During a GS Semifinal:



I just don't get it . The men have no problems filling seats, and the women have more stars

Daniilidou. Venus. Azarenka. Halep. Wickmayer.
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

I think that last picture of the GS Semifinal was being played at the same time as Serena vs Clijsters so that's probably why.


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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

the wickmayer/woz match was only empty because of them being pushed over from their original court. Fans didn't have enough time to react and there was the epic match at ashe stadium.
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

you answered the question already

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

I forgot

But what about the other photos?

Daniilidou. Venus. Azarenka. Halep. Wickmayer.
Cornet. Ivanovic. Vesnina.. Vaidisova. Krajicek.
Paszek. Begu. Cirstea. Lisicki. Pavlyuchenkova.
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

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During a GS Semifinal:



I just don't get it . The men have no problems filling seats, and the women have more stars

Its ugly to watch

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

Because crowds want to watch good tennis?

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

just ask yourself whether you would go watch wozniacki and wickmayer....by choice.

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

because WTA fans'd rather be busy in tennis message boards fighting with each other, cursing at Mary Carrillo and Martina Navratilova or at ESPN and SkySport than actually being at tournaments cheering for their favourites...
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

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because WTA fans'd rather be busy in tennis message boards fighting with each other, cursing at Mary Carrillo and Martina Navratilova or at ESPN and SkySport than actually being at tournaments cheering for their favourites...

Unfortunately, this is true.

Andrew's question does not have a single answer. It's a complex equation. There's a lot of factors.

In general, women's tennis is never going to have the credibility that men's tennis has. It's like golf--Annika Sorenstam was a tremendous player, but fans having to make decisions with their luxury dollars are going to want to see the best players they can, and that is men, like it or not. Bigger, stronger, faster and able to play week to week and create rivalries without their bodies breaking down. When people talk about the great women players of all time, invariably the names that come to mind are Chris Evert, Martina Navratilova, Billie Jean King, Margaret Court, Steffi Graf--players who could win 100 matches and a dozen tournaments a year and STILL play at the top of their games in the slams. That's credible women's tennis. No woman today can do that.

Livestream is a very nice luxury, but it has helped killed crowds for women's tennis. Take away the option to watch from your living room, and more people will go to tournaments.

Location of tournaments has a great deal to do with it as well. Put a tournament in a resort or wealthy retirement community, where people are not at work all day when most matches are played and you will see larger crowds.

Look, it obviously looks bad on TV to see the stands like that, but as a big fan of women's tennis I say go see them in person and show your support. I go to a few tournaments every year and always have a great time, empty stands or not. The players do appreciate it when there's someone there to cheer.

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

Nothing to worry about. I read the mens final on NBC in the US was down 55% from last year.
As Fed declines, womens tennis will take over.

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

Depends where you are and who is playing.

Wimbledon seats are nearly always full, except in the lull after a big match. The top draws like Masha and the Williamses tend to fill the stadiums - even if the fans only come to root against them!

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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

The cost is unrealistic. One match could cost a couple approx $250 US, no exaggeration. Ticket, parking, food, drink. If they want to SEE the match, it'll cost that much.
The match will more than likely last 55 minutes?? maybe 50? maybe there will be an injury withdrawal after 15 minutes? the average human can't/won't pay for that.
Those empty seats will continue to be empty until the cost comes down.
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

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The cost is unrealistic. One match could cost a couple approx $250 US, no exaggeration. Ticket, parking, food, drink. If they want to SEE the match, it'll cost that much.
The match will more than likely last 55 minutes?? maybe 50? maybe there will be an injury withdrawal after 15 minutes? the average human can't/won't pay for that.
Those empty seats will continue to be empty until the cost comes down.
I agree, cost is probably the primary factor contributing to smaller crowds. This isn't something exclusive to the WTA, either. Have you seen how barren a lot of the ATP events are?

Tennis needs to develop and improve different revenue streams, other than gate attendance. If corporate sponsorship and government subsidies were unlimited, I'm sure a lot of event organizers could greatly reduce the cost of attending for fans. If there were large sum television contracts as well, that would further contribute to the reduction of costs to fans. But with the current world economic climate, and the lack of television revenue, I don't see this changing for tennis anytime soon.
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Re: Why such low crowds for the women?

Because the quality of tennis is generally very low?
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