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2004 Wimbledon Final

Can someone tell me how Maria was so good at 17, good enough to win the title? Watching highlights, she hit the ball deep, she got everything back, she hit so cleanly and painted the lines. She played a faultless final, and seemingly without nerves. Come 2010 she's still a good player, but you'd have to say she was a better, more dangerous player at 17/18/19.

How come? Injuries haven't helped, but you would've thought she had about 10 Slams in her and yet she'll probably struggle to win 5. I'm not writing her off, and I think she'll be a contender for this years Wimbledon, but she looked amazing back in 2004 and things just haven't kicked on the way she would've planned.
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Maria hadn't tactic, she was "ballbashing" and everything was in.
On grass I think she should played the way she used to. yes that was more effective

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she was faster and smaller back then - that's the only reason...she hits harder now though
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I think the biggest mystery behind 2004 Wimbly was what the fuck happened to Serena? It was surprising she even got to the final.
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I wish she'd get her flawless teenager mentality back.
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I think the biggest mystery behind 2004 Wimbly was what the fuck happened to Serena? It was surprising she even got to the final.
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Re: 2004 Wimbledon Final

At the age of 17, Masha was moving better than ever. Shes grown quite a lot since then, and her height really hinders her movement. However, the most important thing was that Masha was not injured. She had no injuries whatsoever. If she hadn't have picked up all these injuries, she would without doubt, won more then 3 GS titles.


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At the age of 17, Masha was moving better than ever. Shes grown quite a lot since then, and her height really hinders her movement. However, the most important thing was that Masha was not injured. She had no injuries whatsoever. If she hadn't have picked up all these injuries, she would without doubt, won more then 3 GS titles.
Maybe.

Maria was on a high after winning Wimbledon and then the YEC in the same year. She came into the A0 05 super confident but I feel from then on her confidence slowly started dwindling because most of the time she'd come up against opponents that were simply better than her [Serena at A0; Justine at FO; Venus at WI; Kim at USO]. So it's not all about injuries as evidenced by the fact she won another two slams since then.

Unfortunately she injured her shoulder and the fact she came back after taking 9 months off pushed her back mentally and physically which in turn had a detrimental affect on her game. She's basically "working her way up the ladder" now.

Nothings ever the same. Maria just has to adapt now.

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I think the biggest mystery behind 2004 Wimbly was what the fuck happened to Serena? It was surprising she even got to the final.
This was seren'a fourth or so tourny since coming back from that major surgery. That SF against amelie was sensational, (and maybe amelie should have won that too) she probably never recovered physically from that.

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Rain Delay in the Semis totally helped!!

She was playing good enought to win the title in 2005 & 2007

its just that Venus was too good...

2004,
Serena was just shocked at the pace of the ball
and she didn't know what hit her arsenal...

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Serena was just shocked at the pace of the ball
and she didn't know what hit her arsenal...
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Re: 2004 Wimbledon Final

You know, when we say injuries can determin the rest of one's career, that's not a joke. Really.
After her knee injury, EVEN Serena struggled to find her old form again, she was even out of the top 100 at one moment, me thinks. Venus struggled too. Henin too (and atm), Kim struggled in 2004....
And a shoulder injury is very bad, so she still needs time, because she lost confidence on her serve (I really think her serve was her main weapon before her injury) , since that, she is not the same anymore unfortunately. When she faces top players, she is more nervous, and her serve falls away.
The old Masha could still relies on her serve to get her out of bad situation where her gameplay was off, à la Serena.

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Re: 2004 Wimbledon Final

She could just deal with low flat balls a lot better. Her movement was better, she could redirect the ball with much more ease (without being afraid to miss) and she was also so much more consistent.


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