Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game? - TennisForum.com
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2-time RG finalist DS 10 12.99%
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Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Arguably the only women who are in the running for 2nd best clay courter after JH.

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Kuznetsova clearly if she isnt mentally deranged on the day

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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Kuzzy by far!! If only...she could be unbeatable on this surface
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Jankovic is not anyone's best clay player. She's not even a true clay player. She just moves well. She has little aspects of a true clay player.

Nadia's FH and movement disqualify her to be the best.

Ivanovic.

Its between Kuznetsova and Safina. I tend to like Safina's better because of her BH return-of-serve mostly.
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Jankovic, a great defense beats a great offense on clay... plus her offensive skills have gotten better along with her serve... her and Sveta have the best movement of the 4 but jj has much more consistency than sveta so JJ

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Jankovic is not anyone's best clay player. She's not even a true clay player. She just moves well. She has little aspects of a true clay player.

Nadia's FH and movement disqualify her to be the best.

Ivanovic.

Its between Kuznetsova and Safina. I tend to like Safina's better because of her BH return-of-serve mostly.
I agree. It's between Kuzy and Safina.. I prefer Sveta whose been a fave of mine since her rise in '04 (so i might be a bit biased)

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Jankovic is not anyone's best clay player. She's not even a true clay player. She just moves well. She has little aspects of a true clay player.

Nadia's FH and movement disqualify her to be the best.

Ivanovic.

Its between Kuznetsova and Safina. I tend to like Safina's better because of her BH return-of-serve mostly.
AI might be playing shit now, but currently there are only 4 RG champs playing, and she's one of them.
Nadia actually has pretty good movement for someone her size, and she's compiled one of the best clay court run in recent memory that was only marred because of a debilitating injury.
JJ has had a great clay record losing to the eventual champion the two times she made the SF.

I actually think it's between Petrova and Kuznetsova.
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Record does not equal best game. Jankovic does not have a clay game at all. She plays her normal game and uses the attributes of the surface to defend.

It isn't hard to outhit Jankovic on clay.
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

I think the surface actually helps Safina's limited movement and from her heyday(sad I use that for such a young player) her heavy shots, esp on the forehand are a force to be reckoned with at all times. She doesn't have to react as quickly as on hardcourt and grass.. and she can fight and rally or she's strong enough to hit through the court as well IMHO.

Petrova has the skills for the surface but with her serve and forehand.. (not to mention a more than adequate net game) I think she's more of a player who is capable on all-surfaces.

As for JJ, I think she's actually better on hardcourt. It's just that everyone is crap on clay and her defensive abilities give her an advantage.

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Record does not equal best game. Jankovic does not have a clay game at all. She plays her normal game and uses the attributes of the surface to defend.

It isn't hard to outhit Jankovic on clay.
Right, you need to use the attributes of the surface to your advantage, which she does incredibly well. Moving on grass, hard and clay all require different skills. The fact that JJ is able to move well on all shows that she does have a clay game.

You're right record means nothing. Note how neither Venus nor Serena has been included, despite both having had more success at RG than a couple of the girls listed.
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

Kuznetsova all the way
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Graf didn't have a clay game, but she posted the results. You're talking the best game here. It's definitely not Jankovic out of this list.
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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

When she is on Kuzzy.. then Serena

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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

1- SAFINA
2- KUZNETSOVA (by a small margin)

3- NADIA PETROVA

4- JANKOVIC


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Re: Kuznetsova, Petrova, Safina, Ivanovic, Jankovic: Who has the best CLAY game?

1. Ana
2. Sveta
3. Dinara
4. Janko
5. Nadia


IMO Ivanovic is moving A TAD better than Kuznetsova on that surface so I give her the edge. Nadia's game is better made for faster surfaces.

All 5 players are good clay courter, though.
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