being a sucker on some of three main tennis surfaces is definitely dougrading greatness.... For instance Kuerten , who will rank him even close to someone like Arthur Ashe or Guillermo Vilas? Actually he is in the same league as Safin or Kafelnikov
actually from this group
Tier1 - Davenport, Sharapova, ASV
Tier2 - Clijsters, Mandlikova
Tier3 - Capriati , Wade
Interesting...out of curiosity when you use the check list criteria you pointed out and compare Clijsters to both Davenport and Sharapova are you saying the difference is big enough to rank Clijsters a whole tier below them? In my mind they would be more or less equal so that's a little surprising, but I never did a thorough comparison between them just a first glance comparison, but it's till surprising to me.
who was out for injuries during FO 2012?
as for 3-5 Slam Winners, check the table below (i marked the darker - the better)
who can find how many Tier 1s (i mean it's equivalents ) were won by Wade and Mandlikova?
First, to answer NashaMasha's question, I did some thorough research regarding the most important titles since 1968 which would qualify as "Tier I" titles. The criteria I used for doing this was specifically looking at which tournaments the better ranked players (No.1, No.2, etc) played apart from the Slams. I tried to get a number similar to today's Tier I tournaments (around 8 or 9), and did not make a difference when the players were not competing in the same tour. Here's what I did for the year 1970, for example. I made an average of the rankings provided by journalists of the time from the year before, in this case 1969 (all this info is in the BFTP section), and then I searched which tournaments the best players were part of in 1970. First, tournaments played by the No.1 and No.2 players of the past year got an automatic qualification as a Tier I. If more slots were available, then the tournaments played by No.1 and No.3 were next, then No.2 and No.3, No.1 and No.4, and so on.
AUCKLAND A Ann Jones bt Kerry Melville 0-6 6-4 6-1 (No.2)
PHILADELPHIA B Margaret Court bt Billie Jean King 6-3 8-6 (No.1, No.3 and No.4) Feb 2
HURLINGHAM A Ann Jones bt Joyce Williams 6-1 4-6 6-4 (No.1 and No.2) May 11
DURBAN A Billie Jean King bt Margaret Court 6-4 2-6 6-2 (No.1, No.2 and No.3) Apr 6
NEW YORK A Margaret Court bt Virginia Wade 6-3 6-3 (No.1 and No.3) Feb 9
BOURNEMOUTH A Margaret Court bt Virginia Wade 6-2 6-3 (No.1 and No.3) Apr 27
SUTTON A Margaret Court bt Ann Jones 6-3 6-3 (No.1 and No.2) Apr 20
FRINTON A Margaret Court bt Ann Jones 2-6 7-5 6-2 (No.1 and No.2) Jul 13
DALLAS A Margaret Court bt Billie Jean King 1-6 6-3 11-9 (No.1, No.2 and No.3) Feb 13
SOUTH AFRICAN OPEN A Margaret Court bt Billie Jean King 6-4 1-6 6-3 (No.1 and No.3) Mar 24
All the ones in font made the cut as a Tier I
This year is the most impressive of my research to me. Margaret dominated most of the year's important tournaments! And you can see by the information on the brackets that they weren't cakewalk draws...
I have more for each year, up to the introduction of the Tier I system, if you are interested.
Now regarding how they would the four and three-time Slam winners would be ranked under this system, I did it again, and I got pretty much the same results, even though I think Sharapova is going to change that if she keeps having top seasons like 2012.
Here's how the graphic would look:
system for ranking the all-time greats.PNG
What do you think now?