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What would be the ideal Top 20?

There has been a lot of talk lately about the questionable ranking system, which made Wozniacki #2.

My question would be: How would the ideal ranking look like? And it's not the sense of the thread to make a Top 20 with your favourites (f.E. for NA-GOAT putting Na, Zheng and Peng as Top 3). I'd like to see everyone make the list by "full talent" of a player and where a player would be ranked nowadays without injury, while playing at it's best.

My list would be:

1. Serena Williams
2. Justine Henin
3. Maria Sharapova
4. Venus Williams
5. Kim Clijsters
6. Dinara Safina
7. Elena Dementieva
8. Jelena Jankovic
9. Victoria Azarenka
10. Svetlana Kuznetsova
11. Ana Ivanovic
12. Vera Zvonareva
13. Nadia Petrova
14. Daniela Hantuchova
15. Agnieszka Radwanska
16. Marion Bartoli
17. Flavia Pennetta
18. Caroline Wozniacki
19. Sabine Lisicki
20. Agnes Szavay

N. VAIDISOVA - T. GOLOVIN - A. BONDARENKO - A. SZAVAY
D. HANTUCHOVA - A. PAVLYUCHENKOVA - E. VESNINA - E. SVITOLINA
J. GOERGES - A. WOZNIAK - Y. WICKMAYER - E. BOUCHARD - Ka. PLISKOVA
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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

No way Sharapova. She has not even gotten to a slam contender at a major since her surgery.
Cibulkova, Dulko, Oudin, Kirilenko

You have to include where players are in their career, and not just rank them at their peaks.

That is just a list to downgrade Wozniacki, who is way above Nadia.

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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

There is something wrong in that ranking,you wrote full talent players and Sharapova is n3
By the way very original idea,never seen a thread like this one

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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

1. Dinara Safina
2. Svetlana Kuznetsova
3. Elena Dementieva
4. Nadia Petrova
5. Alisa Kleybanova
6. Vera Zvonareva
7. Maria Kirilenko
8. Elena Vesnina
9. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
10. Elena Bovina
11. Vera Dushevina
12. Ekaterina Makarova
13. Regina Kulikova
14. Anna Chakvetadze
15. Alla Kudryavtseva
16. Evgeniya Rodina
17. Ekaterina Bychkova
18. Vesna Manasieva
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Yuliya Kalabina
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1. Dinara Safina
2. Svetlana Kuznetsova
3. Elena Dementieva
4. Nadia Petrova
5. Alisa Kleybanova
6. Vera Zvonareva
7. Maria Kirilenko
8. Elena Vesnina
9. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
10. Elena Bovina
11. Vera Dushevina
12. Ekaterina Makarova
13. Regina Kulikova
14. Anna Chakvetadze
15. Alla Kudryavtseva
16. Evgeniya Rodina
17. Ekaterina Bychkova
18. Vesna Manasieva
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Yuliya Kalabina
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*Kurata*Gamiz*SaiSai Zheng*Errani*Ce*ForetzGacon*
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No way Sharapova. She has not even gotten to a slam contender at a major since her surgery.
Cibulkova, Dulko, Oudin, Kirilenko

You have to include where players are in their career, and not just rank them at their peaks.

That is just a list to downgrade Wozniacki, who is way above Nadia.
Sorry I'm limitated in my english, I really wanted to say if everyone is at their peak, how the rankings would look then. Peak Nadia is 3000 times better than peak Caro. If just everyone would play at it's peak level consistantly, how would be ranking look.

N. VAIDISOVA - T. GOLOVIN - A. BONDARENKO - A. SZAVAY
D. HANTUCHOVA - A. PAVLYUCHENKOVA - E. VESNINA - E. SVITOLINA
J. GOERGES - A. WOZNIAK - Y. WICKMAYER - E. BOUCHARD - Ka. PLISKOVA
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No way Sharapova. She has not even gotten to a slam contender at a major since her surgery.
Cibulkova, Dulko, Oudin, Kirilenko

You have to include where players are in their career, and not just rank them at their peaks.

That is just a list to downgrade Wozniacki, who is way above Nadia.
This.

And I really dislike Caro. But it makes no sense to downgrade her in ranking. She would be 5th-6th along with Jankovic IMO.

1.Serena
2. Justine
3. Venus
4. Kim
5. either Wozniacki or Jankovic

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Sorry I'm limitated in my english, I really wanted to say if everyone is at their peak, how the rankings would look then. Peak Nadia is 3000 times better than peak Caro. If just everyone would play at it's peak level consistantly, how would be ranking look.
I don't think Venus would be behind Maria at their peaks.

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Sorry I'm limitated in my english, I really wanted to say if everyone is at their peak, how the rankings would look then. Peak Nadia is 3000 times better than peak Caro. If just everyone would play at it's peak level consistantly, how would be ranking look.
If you just want peak, it just becomes an argument about Venus in 2000-2001 vs Justine 2007. They have these threads before.
Then after Maria, Kim, it just becomes who do you root for.

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1. Dinara Safina
2. Svetlana Kuznetsova
3. Elena Dementieva
4. Nadia Petrova
5. Alisa Kleybanova
6. Vera Zvonareva
7. Maria Kirilenko
8. Elena Vesnina
9. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
10. Elena Bovina
11. Vera Dushevina
12. Ekaterina Makarova
13. Regina Kulikova
14. Anna Chakvetadze
15. Alla Kudryavtseva
16. Evgeniya Rodina
17. Ekaterina Bychkova
18. Vesna Manasieva
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Yuliya Kalabina
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1. Dinara Safina
2. Svetlana Kuznetsova
3. Elena Dementieva
4. Nadia Petrova
5. Alisa Kleybanova
6. Vera Zvonareva
7. Maria Kirilenko
8. Elena Vesnina
9. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
10. Elena Bovina
11. Vera Dushevina
12. Ekaterina Makarova
13. Regina Kulikova
14. Anna Chakvetadze
15. Alla Kudryavtseva
16. Evgeniya Rodina
17. Ekaterina Bychkova
18. Vesna Manasieva
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Yuliya Kalabina
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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

I think we will have a much better ranking at the end of the year, or after Wimbledon, I mean both Justine and Kim don't even play a lot, Serena is injured, so they don't gain much points for their ranking. Justine is already #33 with Brisbane, AO and Indian Wells, we will see what will be her ranking after 10tournaments more. Same for Clijsters but I find her very inconsistant, that's why I don't think she will be ranked higher than Caro. Jankovic perhaps but she seems to remain her 2007-2008 form so she might reach the top 5.

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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

This board is full of idiots who're bitching about pushers, so to please them the rankings should look like that:

1. Serena
2. Venus
3. Serena
4. Sharapova
5. Dementieva
6. Ivanovic
7. Serena
8. Henin
9. Clijsters
10. Serena
11. Venus
12. Kuznetsova
13. Henin
14. Venus
15. Sharapova
16. Serena
17. Azarenka
18. Clijsters
19. Serena
20. Ivanovic
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Re: What would be the ideal Top 20?

This is my objective list:
1. Serena Williams
2. Justine Henin
3. Venus Williams
4. Maria Sharapova
5. Kim Clijsters
6. Svetlana Kuznetsova
7. Ana Ivanovic
8. Dinara Safina
9. Elena Dementieva
10. Jelena Jankovic
11. Caroline Wozniacki
12. Nadia Petrova
13. Daniela Hantuchova
14. Vera Zvonareva
15. Victoria Azarenka
16. Agnieszka Radwanska
17. Marion Bartoli
18. Flavia Pennetta
19. Li Na
20. Samantha Stosur



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