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Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

Both defensive players who hit with heavy topspin

Both were number 2 in the world, Wozniacki now, Conchita in 1995
(If Seles had not been stabbed Conchita would have been 3)

Caroline obviously has a better topspin backhand than Conchita, whose backhand was most of the time slice, and excessively loopy when she tried to hit topspin.

Caroline is also faster

But Conchita had a much better forehand, the second best forehand after Graf in her time, which allowed her to play from time to time quite aggressively. Wozniacki just can't be very aggressive with anything.

Conchita also had more variety,


So, what do you think?
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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

Caroline better serve and mental game.


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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

tennis has changed since conchita, its hard to say. But both obviously had / have their strengths and weaknesses. I would say caroline would beat conchita, but only because of the modern game. If they were around at the same time and were a similar age the story could be different. Like i said its hard to say! totally a fan of both though!

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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

Martinez playing Wozniacki would be like a Conchita-ASV or a Conchita-Coetzer match. I can't say if either would have an edge. If forced, I'd go with Wozniacki since I haven't seen her exhibit the negativity that Martinez sometimes displayed on court.
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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

No.

Conchita had a wealth of shots at her disposal. Yes, she was underpowered against her peers (and considerably in some cases), but she had intuitive court-craft, easy bouncy movement that rarely made her unable to retain her court-positioning, and she was a true exponent of varying the height, length, width and pace of the ball.

Check out her match against Hingis in Berlin from 2000. I wouldn't call that a defensive display at all, managing to out-maneuvere Hingis at every opportunity and actually to a degree, out-hit Hingis with her forehand with extraordinary placement.
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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

No

Wozniacki would kill for a forehand like that
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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

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Both defensive players who hit with heavy topspin

Both were number 2 in the world, Wozniacki now, Conchita in 1995
(If Seles had not been stabbed Conchita would have been 3)

Caroline obviously has a better topspin backhand than Conchita, whose backhand was most of the time slice, and excessively loopy when she tried to hit topspin.

Caroline is also faster

But Conchita had a much better forehand, the second best forehand after Graf in her time, which allowed her to play from time to time quite aggressively. Wozniacki just can't be very aggressive with anything.

Conchita also had more variety,


So, what do you think?
What a fascinating question - something I've never thought about.

The first response was correct, Conchita had a tremendous forehand when she decided to use it. To me, Conchita played a similar way to Gabriela Sabatini and Amelie Mauresmo, however, both Amelie and Gabriela were more athletic and had better topspin backhands to go with their slice shots. Conchita did have a lot of variety in her game and like Arantxa Sanchez was always prepared to take the net due to lots of doubles experience.

I'm fascinated (actually not sure that's the right word) by the new breed of Tennis player. In the past, counter punchers and "pushers" (horrible word!!!) were usually shorter and had less power or reach for hitting those big serves - players like Arantxa Sanchez, Michael Chang and Lleyton Hewitt made the most of what they had and still played tremendous Tennis and made great results.

In the last three years a new type of player has come through. In the mens game you have Gael Monfils and Andy Murray who are both 6 ft 3 inches (1 metre 90?) and yet you have Monfils standing by the fence running down everything and "pushing" the ball all over the place, contributing to his own injuries by not playing efficiently. And in the womens game you have Wozniacki who's also tall and also playing a similar way. Andy Murray's passive play is the sole reason why he hasn't won a Grand Slam tournament yet (will he win one?) Andy has so many shots and yet plays so many soft shots (I’ve seen him twice and was surprised and disappointed).

So its strange to see taller players playing a counter puncher style when they have the physical gifts to play more aggressive. I wonder if this trend will continue?
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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

Actually maybe I should include Nadal in this as well. His game style borders on counterpuncher so often and his injuries are a direct result of over play and not having an efficient game or big enough serve to win cheap points from time to time.
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No way, Conchita is much hotter And a better tennisplayer as well

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No. Conchita is way better.

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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

not sure whether wozniacki hit as heavy topspin as conchita..

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Re: Is Wozniacki better than prime Conchita Martinez?

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No. Conchita is way better.
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