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New owner of Indian Wells wants sisters to play.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar...dwyre-20100316

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March 15, 2010|Bill Dwyre
We are in the second week of the prestigious BNP Paribas Open Minus Venus and Serena. The BNPPOMVS.
Bad acronym. Not catchy, just honest.
For the female half of this tennis event at Indian Wells, it has been that way for the last nine years, making it an annual affair.
The issue has moved from them not being here. Deal with it folks. They aren't coming back. Their confrontation with the crowd in 2001 and dad Richard Williams' characterization a week or so later that the whole thing was racist is a tattoo on this event.



New owner Larry Ellison said he wants them back, but being the fourth-wealthiest man in the world won't be enough. Learning to change wine into water might do it.
Last year, from the WTA's bonus pool alone, Serena Williams forfeited $400,000 and Venus $150,000 for failure to play the mandatory Indian Wells event. Apparently $550,000 isn't motivation enough.
There was a telling quote from Ellison published recently. He said he hadn't been able to reach the Williams sisters through their agents. Larry Ellison calls and you don't answer? Holy Fort Knox!
That was mildly disputed Monday morning at a round-table discussion with the media and women's tour Chief Executive Stacey Allaster.
"As far as I know today," Allaster said, "calls to their agents have not been made." She also said, "I know the type of people they [Venus and Serena] are, and I know they will take his phone call."
The bigger picture here is the future of women's tennis, especially without Venus, 30 in June, and Serena, 29 in September. It will be up to Allaster to guide the tour through that transition. No easy deal.
As tennis legend Tracy Austin said Monday, "We've been spoiled over the years." She named Chris Evert, Billie Jean King, Martina Navratilova, Margaret Court, Jennifer Capriati and Lindsay Davenport. She should have thrown herself in there too.
"But I don't see anybody in the next few years ready to fill the shoes of Venus and Serena. Big shoes."
Allaster takes this on in the midst of ongoing change and growing competition for the sports dollar. She took over last summer from Larry Scott, who became the commissioner of the Pacific 10 Conference and shed a huge headache. Ten lousy basketball teams is easy compared to the fragile world of women's tennis.
Allaster is now in the vision-for-the future seat. Also the smooth-it-over seat. She said Serena's much-watched outburst at the U.S. Open had not hurt women's tennis and she considered it "one evening out of character."

Allaster said that the retaining of tour sponsor Sony Ericsson was key, and it was, even though the cellphone company came forth with less money this time around.
Allaster called that an opportunity to grow the WTA brand separately, especially at its season-ending title event. That's in Doha this year and Istanbul the three years after that. Get your tickets now.
She pointed to attendance growth at the U.S. Open, Miami and here at Indian Wells. How much of that is due to women's tennis and how much to Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal is hard to pinpoint. OK, it isn't hard.
She has hired an expert in social media to help grow the WTA brand, is romancing China and called her sport a "global product." She called the NBA's David Stern her kind of visionary. To her credit, she did not say she would "think outside the box."

The real growth in the product will be where it has always been, and where it was Monday.
On Court 3, Shahar Peer and Flavia Pennetta banged through a terrific three-set match, Peer winning. Both are good players, both attractive personalities.
Next on the same court was newcomer Yanina Wickmayer, whose out-of-nowhere success is a good story. She beat unheralded Roberta Vinci of Italy, who served and volleyed in her key service game of the second set. Good stuff. Even the men don't try that much anymore, a huge loss to the game.
On center court, in a key-lime-pie dress, Serbian Jelena Jankovic, a compelling character in the process of building a 20,000-square-foot house in San Diego, won a tough three-setter of her own.
Kim Clijsters, who lost a long and wrenching 2 1/2-hour three-setter late Monday to Alisa Kleybanova of Russia, usually brings the sunshine.
Justine Henin is back and brings along her smooth-as-a-vanilla-milkshake backhand. Maria Sharapova keeps breaking down, but keeps trying.
These are among the stars of a future without Venus and Serena.
Also in that future, Ellison's tournament will stop receiving money from the WTA Tour for the Williams sisters' absence. Those are called "mis-commitment checks."
Who says Roger Clemens has no influence on women's tennis?
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Re: New owner of Indian Wells wants sisters to play.

This thread will be over 10 pages long. I am calling it right now.
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don't know why jh and kim are seen as successors to ws when they are around the same age

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Not this shit again please
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So technically last year Serena forfeited 575,000 US dollars worth of prize and bonus money.
Good thing she made almost three times that in Doha in a week.

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Re: New owner of Indian Wells wants sisters to play.

This article is hilarious for a few reasons......

We have all been hearing about how the tournament is doing great without the sisters....who needs them from the old managers and owners. New guys comes in and he wants to get the sisters to play his tournament. Larry unfortunately, the person(s) who the sisters want an apology from is not you. Unless you can convince Charlie Pasarell and Raymond Moore to prostrate themselves on center court infront of the sisters they are not coming back.


Tracy Austin lamenting the lack of American players coming up that can step up for American tennis after the sisters retires. Where is this concern when they are playing and winning now. I guess you never know what you got till its gone.


WTA are some of the worst promoters in sports history......You have the story of the 2 AA sisters rising to top of tennis and you allow people in the media and tour to constantly tarnish your golden goose. They should have been stepping up for the sisters from day one. Now they need them to help renegotiate contracts and still keep them interesting to the world.

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give this tired old crap a rest

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Re: New owner of Indian Wells wants sisters to play.

move on

If your fave's coach isn't Richard Williams, that's just her first problem...

I was there when the ALL BLACKS won the World Cup in 2011!!!

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Do you think the Williams sisters would play if they were given some kind of real and genuine apology? Like if they really felt that the tour was acknowledging that they had been mistreated back in the day?
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don't know why jh and kim are seen as successors to ws when they are around the same age
For reals. What the hell.



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don't know why jh and kim are seen as successors to ws when they are around the same age
Desperation..... Kim and Justine will retire before they do...and for the second time. I predict they will not be playing in 2012..... Kim already looks like shes ready to throw the towel in again....


And Allstar with this "they'd take his call" No, I dont think they would....... cause hed have to say why he was calling and lets face it. Venus and Serena have moved on. Indian Wells needs to move on.

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give this tired old crap a rest
You know, if you feel that strongly - it would be far more productive to tell that to the new owner of Indian Wells, rather than repeating the same old impotent posts over and over on a message board.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
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For reals. What the hell.



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Do you think the Williams sisters would play if they were given some kind of real and genuine apology? Like if they really felt that the tour was acknowledging that they had been mistreated back in the day?
A Resounding YES!!

Though it likley be during the time they retire, as a kind of 'victory tour' of sorts. Their absence from this 'tournament' had everything to do with how they felt they were treated by the WTA, tour directors, organizers..ect, as it did the crowd(mob)!!

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