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The BBC commentator, John Barrett, said on several occasions that he believed Seles was the best he'd ever seen after this match. It's certainly one of the greatest performances I think I've seen, even watching it all these years later. Graf was playing well, and took the first set definantly. Seles then raised her game to levels even she'd not reached before to respond to the threat. It was the mark of a true champion.

You get fascinating glimpses of what might have been. Graf was still the better athlete, but it was clear Seles had narrowed the gap in key areas where Graf held the advantage. Meanwhile, she'd maintained the gap in areas where she was better. Seles served far more aces (8, I think). She was, by this time, taller than Graf. She was almost as quick, if you watch closely, showing some brilliant defensive skills. She took the ball out of the air more times than Graf. Her volleys were developing. She was attacking the Graf forehand, and hitting more shots with one hand.

Graf was a player with so much wherewithal to respond to these challenges, and we must remember that when we speculate about what might have been had the stabbing not occurred. But in terms of looking at the course on which Seles was headed before she was forced out, then you MUST start with this.

She didn't even look surprised when she won.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsMT4bSu1v4 (1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nO8N...eature=related (2)


Over all, Seles had found a new level in early 1993.
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The ace in the 3rd set down break point gave me chills.
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John Barrett even spoke of this match when commentating their 1999 QF - he stated that it was the best women's match at the Australian Open he'd ever seen.

When people reflect on Seles of 91-92, they think that she had maximized her potential - but the Seles of 1993, as briefly as we saw her, was sublime. She'd disposed of Sabatini 6-3, 6-1 in the semifinals and it seemed no one besides Graf at Wimbledon could stand in her way at the majors, in the short run ofcourse. And after this performance, even that did not seem a certainty as it had in 1992.

I have often wondered whether this loss hurt Graf more than the 1992 loss in Paris. She had said before the match it was going to be special - and she was right. They both went after it and Seles ran away with it in the end - Steffi's final service game in this match, it almost seemed like she was mentally defeated.

And what Athenaeum said.

I'm still trying to find a copy of this match with American commentators - Mary Carillo made ome insightful remarks about Seles, and her position in women's tennis at the time.

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The BBC commentator, John Barrett, said on several occasions that he believed Seles was the best he'd ever seen after this match. It's certainly one of the greatest performances I think I've seen, even watching it all these years later. Graf was playing well, and took the first set definantly. Seles then raised her game to levels even she'd not reached before to respond to the threat. It was the mark of a true champion.

You get fascinating glimpses of what might have been. Graf was still the better athlete, but it was clear Seles had narrowed the gap in key areas where Graf held the advantage. Meanwhile, she'd maintained the gap in areas where she was better. Seles served far more aces (8, I think). She was, by this time, taller than Graf. She was almost as quick, if you watch closely, showing some brilliant defensive skills. She took the ball out of the air more times than Graf. Her volleys were developing. She was attacking the Graf forehand, and hitting more shots with one hand.

Graf was a player with so much wherewithal to respond to these challenges, and we must remember that when we speculate about what might have been had the stabbing not occurred. But in terms of looking at the course on which Seles was headed before she was forced out, then you MUST start with this.

She didn't even look surprised when she won.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsMT4bSu1v4 (1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nO8N...eature=related (2)


Over all, Seles had found a new level in early 1993.

This one match was one of Monica's finest.
On her best surface and on Steffi's worst - slow hard-court.
In January-April 1993 Monica won 15 of 16 matches and lost 6 sets.
In January-April 1992 she won 26 of 27 matches but lost only 4 sets.

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BTW, how many sets did Seles win against Graf on fast courts pre-stabbing?
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I wish I was old enough to have seen Seles in her prime.

I'm currently half-way through her book - great read. It's amazing that she even returned to the tour after what happened, let alone ended up winning another slam.
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John Barrett even spoke of this match when commentating their 1999 QF - he stated that it was the best women's match at the Australian Open he'd ever seen. ...


I remember Graf doing herself in in the last set.
Tons of unforced errors. Although she hit more winners even in this 2-6 set.
Seles played very consistent, though. And hit some great serves.
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Thanks for posting. Monica is by far my fave tennis player of all time . Such a shame her career was halted in her prime with the stabbing tragedy. God knows how many more slams she would have won over the next few years
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Thanks for posting. Monica is by far my fave tennis player of all time . Such a shame her career was halted in her prime with the stabbing tragedy. God knows how many more slams she would have won over the next few years

She came back to the tour in 1995, aged just 21.
Same age Navratilova won her first slam.
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thx. Nice vids!



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She came back to the tour in 1995, aged just 21.
Same age Navratilova won her first slam.
If Graf had been stabbed in March 1990, not to return until September 1992, don't bet that she'd have still won all those titles in the rest of the 1990s. Interruptions break momentum and allow the rot to set in.
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Graf's backhand was one of the most disgusting shots in tennis history.
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If Graf had been stabbed in March 1990, not to return until September 1992, don't bet that she'd have still won all those titles in the rest of the 1990s. Interruptions break momentum and allow the rot to set in.

Of course interruptions break momentum.
And Seles had gained a lot of weight.
The emotional stress caused by the stabbing and - what many Seles fans try to downplay - her father dying of cancer worsened her pre-existing eating disorder problems.

I don't think that Graf would have been out for more than 2 years because of a stabbing, BTW.

But I really don't want to dive into the abyss of Seles-Graf-stabbing controversies. Let's agree that the stabbing influenced the history of women's tennis. As did Connolly's riding accident, Graf's multiple injuries and family problems, Tracy Austin's career-ending injury and Capriati's drug problems.
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Graf's backhand was one of the most disgusting shots in tennis history.

According to a poll among her opponents?
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