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Yanina Wickmayer free to play until June 2011

Yanina Wickmayer kan woensdag zorgenvrij beginnen aan haar eerste ronde op het WTA-toernooi van Parijs. Het lijkt er namelijk sterk op dat er geen nieuwe wendingen komen in haar whereaboutsaffaire voor eind mei 2011. Zowel zij als Xavier Malisse kunnen nog 16 maanden vrijuit tennissen zonder dat er een schorsing dreigt.

Het Vlaams Doping Tribunaal (VDT) ging in beroep nadat de schorsing van de twee werd opgeheven op 14 december.

"Het Hof van Beroep stelde vorige vrijdag een agenda op", verduidelijkt advocaat Kristof De Saedeleer. "De procedure loopt tot april 2011. Daarop volgen de pleidooien en pas dan een uitspraak, wellicht begin juni 2011. Binnenkort wordt de zaak ook ten gronde ingeleid, maar die zaak zal ongeveer dezelfde termijn volgen."
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They are basically saying the case won't be finished until 2011
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omg june 2011???
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CAS has not yet issued a decision.

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2 years!?!?
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CAS has not yet issued a decision.
CAS decission can't do anything about it.
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2 years!?!?
Probably 3. Since Belgian courts are in huge delays and we're currently busy with serial-killers
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CAS decission can't do anything about it.
?? Explain please. Both Wickmayer and WADA have presented their case to the CAS. It's been portrayed as CAS having the final say in the matter.

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?? Explain please. Both Wickmayer and WADA have presented their case to the CAS. It's been portrayed as CAS having the final say in the matter.
The lawyer said that CAS can be overruled by the European and Belgian verdicts.
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CAS decission can't do anything about it.
Don't be so certain of that. This is turning into a legal mess. If Wickmayer is successful at CAS, the Belgian Court of Appeal case will be irrelevant for her part and she would be free to play no matter what - and also beyond June 2011. It might be different for Malisse, though.

If Wickmayer loses at CAS, she has exhausted all options within the legal framework of international sports, and the situation would become extremely precarious. The ITF could very well accept to go by the recommendation of the Flemish anti-doping organization and wait for the legal proceedings in Belgium to run their course.

They are probably even obliged to do so under the WADA Code, but it would effectively make Flanders the black sheep of international anti-doping. Quite an embarrassment considering the nationality of the IOC President. Rogge has made anti-doping one of his top priorities.
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Don't be so certain of that. This is turning into a legal mess. If Wickmayer is successful at CAS, the Belgian Court of Appeal case will be irrelevant for her part and she would be free to play no matter what - and also beyond June 2011. It might be different for Malisse, though.

If Wickmayer loses at CAS, she has exhausted all options within the legal framework of international sports, and the situation would become extremely precarious. The ITF could very well accept to go by the recommendation of the Flemish anti-doping organization and wait for the legal proceedings in Belgium to run their course.

They are probably even obliged to do so under the WADA Code, but it would effectively make Flanders the black sheep of international anti-doping. Quite an embarrassment considering the nationality of the IOC President. Rogge has made anti-doping one of his top priorities.
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If CAS says she can play, and the Belgian and European courts say she can't, then CAS overrules that decission.

However if the Belgian and European courts say she can play, than there's a super small chance that CAS with a negative rule can stop her from playing. The CAS appeal-verdict will then be seen as not happened based on the fact that the courts annulled VDT's sanction.

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Flanders has nothing to be ashamed of, for starters, Flemish people made up the whereabouts rule.

If we hadn't, nobody would have had, not to mention, the country that did most against doping, is up to day, still Belgium.
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If CAS says she can play, and the Belgian and European courts say she can't, then CAS overrules that decission.
Yes, she has no worries if she wins at CAS. The Belgian and European courts can uphold the VDT decision, and most things would be restored to status quo. However, it would have implications for the anti-doping system both in Flanders and abroad if the VDT decision is shot down - regardless of the CAS decision. It could take half a decade to get that far, though. Especially if the case ends up in the supreme court.

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However if the Belgian and European courts say she can play, than there's a super small chance that CAS with a negative rule can stop her from playing. The CAS appeal-verdict will then be seen as not happened based on the fact that the courts annulled VDT's sanction.
Yes, this is where it can get really messy. Even the CAS decision itself can be appealed to a Swiss court if the ITF lets the CAS decision take precedence.

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Flanders has nothing to be ashamed of, for starters, Flemish people made up the whereabouts rule.

If we hadn't, nobody would have had, not to mention, the country that did most against doping, is up to day, still Belgium.
That's a strong claim to make. There was a general international push to introduce a whereabouts system to faciliate effective out-of-competition testing. The problem with the First Court decision is that it's hard to see anyone getting effectively suspended for a violation of anti-doping rules in Flanders. At least until the Court of Appeal has dealt with these cases.
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