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Fascinating Stat From AO Final

When Justine got her racquet on to a Serena first serve she won the point 60.2% of the time.

Who sez Serena's serve dominated?

Other interesting fact: Justine won a higher percentage of points off BOTH the first and second serves.

Note for those viewing the match statistics: yes, the stats do say that Serena won 47% on the second serve and Justine only 45% but this is misleading because those stats include double-faults. As Justine had three more DF's than Serena the true stat for winning percentage on the second serve (when the ball was in - same as for the first serve) is Serena:51%; Justine: 53%!

BTW whoever did the statistical framework for the ITF stats should be sacked!
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There's no way that Justine should have lost. She was CLEARLY the better player.

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Who cares. The only stat that matters is that Serena won 6-4 3-6 6-2.
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Re: Fascinating Stat From AO Final

Wickmayer had better stats than Henin.
Thus Henin should have lost to Wickmayer


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The trouble is the whole "getting her racket onto Serena's first serve" thing
12 aces will do that to ya

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Sooooo basically, if you ignore aces and double faults, which obviously have nothing to do with the quality of one's serve, then Justine was actually the more dominant server.

Riiiiight.......
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Damn, better get Serena to hand the trophy over to Justine seeing she was obviously the real winner....
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Well, it doesn't matter what anyone says, at the end of the day, Serena won the match.

That said, one slam is enough! Justine and Venus can do a swap and win Wimby and the FO respectively. Kim can take the USO!

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well, it's obvious that without her serve Serena is journeywoman level player...Justine was the real winner, everyone knows it
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well, it's obvious that without her serve Serena is journeywoman level player...Justine was the real winner, everyone knows it
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It's *says, not sez.

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Re: Fascinating Stat From AO Final

Lol @ the "who cares Serena won period" comments.

That stat actually shows Justine read Serena's serve very well but had a poor tactics (on her second serves) despite the fact Serena was serving really well during the Oz Open. It actually shows Justine can challenge Serena everywhere, if she improves her serve, she might become very dangerous for Serena.

Give back 2006 US Open to Justine

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There's no way that Justine should have lost. She was CLEARLY the better player.

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But that was the thing...she WASN'T getting her racket on the ball most of the time. 12 aces, countless service winners. So we're gonna stop counting aces and service winners?

How many majors would Pete Sampras have won, then?!

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