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What is the definition of a "pusher"

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I often read in this forum that this player or that player is a pusher etc but really wondering what people consider to be a pusher!

To me I think people mean a player just gets the ball back in play without going for winners, BUT by the very nature of tennis a level of consistency is required to play and win, it would be virtually impossible to go for winners all the time. Look at Serena Williams she hardly goes for winners all the time, they are saved for every now and then, to do so all the time she would lose.

Also look at some of the best female players of the past such as Evert, Austin, Hingis, they were very consistent and didnt have huge weapons, yet their concentration and consistency often bought wins against most players.

I think people who call players "pushers" don't watch a lot of live tennis, because the speed they hit the ball is not appreciated on tv, and they still hit it preddy darn hard, hardly a push. Maybe they don't go for as many winners as say the Williams, but they hardly push the ball!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusher_%28tennis%29


"In tennis, a pusher is a player who "pushes" back any shot they can chase down, without deliberately hitting a winner. This style of play, likened to a "human backboard", often tires and frustrates more offensive opponents."
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"In tennis, a pusher is a player who "pushes" back any shot they can chase down, without deliberately hitting a winner. This style of play, likened to a "human backboard", often tires and frustrates more offensive opponents."
Hmmm in this case one would assume this sort of player would be a classic clay court player, and Nadal would be considered a "pusher"
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Hmmm in this case one would assume this sort of player would be a classic clay court player, and Nadal would be considered a "pusher"
Yes, most people do actually consider Nadull a pusher
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Re: What is the definition of a "pusher"

Denotata: Caroline Wozniacki

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Re: What is the definition of a "pusher"

It used to be called 'counter-puncher'
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It used to be called 'counter-puncher'
Oh yes remember that term, then Evert was the greatest pusher in female tennis history lol
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Put "Wozniacki" on Youtube
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The Merriam-Webster defines pusher as Caroline Wozniacki.
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Yes, most people do actually consider Nadull a pusher
Referring to yourself as "most people," eh?

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Referring to yourself as "most people," eh?
No, I admire Rafael's defensive abilities and shot making
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I often see a 'pusher' as someone halfway between a 'hacker' and a 'counter-puncher'. For me, a 'counter-puncher' sounds like they have at least a little bit of offensive skills, ie. they can wait for the perfect opportunity to strike back after soaking up much of their opponent's power.

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Nadal almost always makes over 20 winners, he can hit a winner from anywhere from the court. He does play defensive tennis but he is not a pusher. He counter punches, constructs the point and when the moment is right he paints the lines. A pusher is a player who just returns the ball back in the court and waits for an unforced error from their opponent.

Classic example would be Caro Wozniacki(3 winners in a match) and the Rochus brothers.

Martina Hingis was not a pusher, neither was Chris Evert.
Hingis did not put a lot of speed on her balls but she still dictated play by taking the ball early and than painting the lines.
Chris Evert was a classic example of a counter puncher with a lot of finesse. She constructed the point and waited for the right opportunity to capitalize(ie. a shorter return).

The people calling Nadal, Evert, or Hingis pushers, have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about.

A pusher would be someone like Michael Chang(although he did have finesse at times).

By the way a counter puncher in today's game would be Jelena Jankovic.
Pusher would be Pin or Wozniacki

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"In tennis, a pusher is a player who "pushes" back any shot they can chase down, without deliberately hitting a winner. This style of play, likened to a "human backboard", often tires and frustrates more offensive opponents."
and wins tons of matches and breaks into the top ten.

otoh, there are tons of big hitters and servers who can't even win half the matches or beat half the players that pushers can.

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Re: What is the definition of a "pusher"

Pusher = Caroline Wozniacki.

Btw, Nadal is not a pusher. He hits a lot of (amazing) winners and he's only defensive when his opponent attacks, Caro is always defensive even if her opponent doesn't attack.
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