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anybody knows? It interests me as there are so many Irish posters here.
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Re: Has Ireland ever produced a good tennis player ?

As matter of fact, there was an Irish palyer in the main draw in this Assie open.
I think he may have won 1 or 2 rounds.


On the other hand they can alwasy claim he McEnroe brothers, Jimmy Connors, all of Irish ancestry.
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Ireland pwned the tour in the late 1800s. Plus theres his guy. He makes Serena look like a puppy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vere_St._Leger_Goold

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Yeah pre-Open era there were many. The first Olympic gold medalist I believe was Irish but obviously competed for Britian at that time. Also the first non American female USOpen winner was Irish Mabel Cahill.

Matt Doyle was Top 100 but he wasn't "produced" by Ireland he was just a Irish American who defected.
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World number one, multiple grand slam winners...around the turn of the 20th century! From the 1880's until the 1910's there were quite a few very good ones.

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Maybe Ireland should try to "buy" some players, like Kazakhstan

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I remember seeing that Julie Coin lost in a challenger to an Irish player a couple of weeks before her famous win over Ivanovic. I thought it was a pretty good signal of how far Ivanovic had fallen.
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Interesting stuff about the early days about tennis, that murder case is both spooky and exotic.
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I agree with this but it would never happen.

Liggan beat Coin the week before Coin beat Ivanovic, that result really shocked me
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I remember seeing that Julie Coin lost in a challenger to an Irish player a couple of weeks before her famous win over Ivanovic. I thought it was a pretty good signal of how far Ivanovic had fallen.
Must've been Kelly Liggan, then. Only recent female player I know.
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Kelly Liggan won a WTA Doubles title a few years ago and nearly qualified for the Main Draw of the Australian Open, that was a first WTA title of any kind for Irish Women
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As matter of fact, there was an Irish palyer in the main draw in this Assie open.
I think he may have won 1 or 2 rounds.
Louk Sorensen is Irish, but was raised and lives in Stuttgart, Germany. His parents has since moved back to Ireland, but Louk still lives in Stuttgart.
He went through the AO qualification and lost in round 2 of the main darw to John Isner in 3 sets.

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Louk Sorensen (born January 7 1985)[1] is a professional tennis player from Ireland.

He is the first player representing Ireland to win a Grand Slam match in the Open Era. His father, Sean, was the first Irishman to play a Grand Slam match in the Open Era, but went out in the first round at Wimbledon. The other contender for the honor was Matt Doyle, who reached the fourth round of the US Open in 1982 (where he was beaten by John McEnroe, incidentally also of Irish descent). However, Doyle played under the American flag and only became an Irish citizen in 1985.

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He is the son of Sean Sorensen, the current captain of the Ireland Davis Cup team, who played in the first round of Wimbledon in 1977, losing to Rod Laver and finished runner-up to Mats Wilander at an ATP Challenger Tour event in Buchholz, Germany, in February 1982. His older brother, Kevin, was also a professional tennis player and competed for Ireland in the Davis Cup until 2006. He also has two sisters, Lisa and Josephine. Sorensen was raised in Germany and although his parents now live in Dublin, he remains in Stuttgart, training with German coach, Carsten Arriens, who also coaches Germans Andreas Beck and Alexander Waske, and playing for third division Bundesliga tennis club TC Doggenburg[3]. As of January 2010, he is the Irish No.1, and is a prominent member of the Irish Davis Cup team, holding a 10-2 singles record, having made his debut in July 2005.

Sorensen's surname is of Norwegian origin. His mother, Helga, has both German and Austrian blood.
He makes some funny face while playing it seems.

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Maybe Ireland should try to "buy" some players, like Kazakhstan
And what would this do for tennis in Ireland? Nothing.

Tennis Ireland spending a major chunk of their funding on a mid-ranked journeywoman to play with IRL beside their name would be hugely impractical. It would probably never recoup its investment because there still wouldn't be enough interest drummed up in tennis here.

Mid-ranked journeywomen or men are not going to fuel interest in tennis in Ireland. Simple as. And the facilities are nowhere near good enough to attract any top 50 player to base themselves here.

The only way tennis in Ireland benefits is if an Irish-born player is successful enough to be featured in the latter stages of main tour events on a consistent basis and could make a couple of good slam runs. The chances of that happening are zilch.

Tennis just isn't popular enough here and the talent pool is much too small anyway. Tennis in Ireland faces the same main problem that the UK does when it comes to recruiting young players, only the problem is magnified much more for Ireland because of the population figure. Tennis has too many middle to upper-class connotations and completely alienates the working class, even further narrowing its talent pool. Not only this but coaching systems here are extremely sub-standard, as are the facilities.

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Maybe Ireland should try to "buy" some players, like Kazakhstan
Maybe Ekaterina Makarova can play for Ireland and change her last name to MacArova.

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