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Justine will dominate the rivalry a la 2007. 19 16.67%
Serena will dominate the rivalry and/or finally get revenge on Justine in Paris. 41 35.96%
The matches will go back and forth, and no one will dominate. 40 35.09%
They will not meet in 2010. 14 12.28%
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post #1 of 186 (permalink) Old Nov 11th, 2009, 04:41 AM Thread Starter
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How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

Yes another Serena vs. Justine thread

H2H: Serena leads 7-6

Serena dominated the rivalry early winning 4 of the first 5 matches. All four of her wins were in straight sets. Justine's only win was a 7-6 in the third victory, on the slow clay, in Berlin.

In 03' H2H favored Henin 2-1. Justine was able to beat Serena twice on clay, and Serena beat Justine at Wimbledon.

The two didn't play again, until 2007. 2007 is known as the year that Justine dominated Serena (a.k.a. QuateRena), winning 3 of the 4 matches played (also having squandered 2 match points in the Miami final). Justine was clearly on another level this year, compared to Serena. The only match that I'm skeptical about giving full credit to Justine for, was the Wimbledon QF. Serena was obviously hampered in that one, and I feel like the result could have been different had Serena been completely healthy.

Their last match was in Miami, the following year. Serena won that one, only losing two games.

So with Henin back on the scene, what will happen next? Serena is undoubtly in better shape then she was, in 2007. But her loss of athleticism will continue to cause her problems against both Belgians. Will Justine be able to match the form she showed in 07'? Will she bring back QuarteRena?

I think these two are bound to meet in at least two of the slams next year. My prediction is that the rivalry will go back and forth, should they meet mutiple times next year. I doubt Serena will allow herself to be dominated by Justine, the way she was in 2007. It should also be noted that Justine still "only" has two wins over Serena off of clay, both in 2007. However, that's not to say that Justine won't present "major" problems for Serena, in 2010.

AO: Should they meet here, I have to give the edge to Serena. She's #1, and should be riding high on confidence. But Justine could always pull off a Clijsters. Foot fault, anyone? Fun fact: It's the only slam they haven't played each other at.
FO: Obviously favors Justine, but I give Serena a fighting chance. She hasn't been able to show her best in Paris, since 2003. She was close to winning it in 09', however.
Wimbledon: I don't care what new tactics and/or serve Justine brings to the table. No way she beats a healthy Williams Sister @ Wimbledon. It's been their playground for years now!
US Open: Toss up. But my hopes lie with Serena, for obvious reasons.

I'm actually kind of excited Justine is coming back now.

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

I'm just glad you're giving Justine the credit she deserves. As a fan of both women, I find the "I hate Serena", "I hate Justine" threads a major pain in the ass because 1, I can hardly pick sides and 2, well, I cant pick sides.

I think that Serena'll probably dominate simply because she's at a high level now and Justine is just coming back. Unlike Kim, her game needs more time to really be effective. On clay, I think Justine is a sure shot. On the rest, it will depend on how well she is playing (except for Wimbledon, where Serena is the best bet).

That said, I hope both of them wins a slam next year (Justine @ Wimbledon and Serena @ the US Open). The other two can go to Kim and Venus.

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

You're asking for a thread full of arguing and naysaying on this one, however like skanky said, I'm happy you gave Justine credit.

To me personally, I think if they play early on Serena will have the edge, but like Clijsters showed at the US Open, against great talent the 09 Serena does not always prevail. I think that once she gets into the swing of things however, Justine will be a tough nugget to crack.

I voted that Justine will dominate out of bias, but I'm leaning more towards the rivalry going back and forth. I personally think Justine is a better player, especially given the physical differences between the two, but Serena is the most successful player this past decade so who knows.

In terms of the Slams: AO: depending upon where they meet in the draw, I give slight edge to Serena because Justine will just be coming back, but it's an even year down under and Justine is very dangerous when fresh.
FO: Without a doubt Justine, Serena has no chance
W: If Serena is playing well, she will probably win. Unless Justine plays incredibly well
US: Toss up, depends who's playing well, maybe slight edge to Justine because she will be comfortable playing by then
So 2/2

I'm hoping they play some big matches, but I'm hoping they both also have success without crossing each others paths.


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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

Where is the, it won't option, as in... they will barely play each other???

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Serena will win in Miami Rome Madrid , while Justine will continue their head to head trend in the slams.

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

Time will tell!But' if Serena really gets on her A game,that mean's doing the things Serena suppose to do( eat right take care of her weight etc etc,, we'v see some great tennis games this yr.Venus to.Never fall asleep on Queen Venus A game!
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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

To early to tell... Although in my head i definetly see an australian open quarterfinal serena-justine coming.

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

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FO: Without a doubt Justine, Serena has no chance
LOL, without a doubt when you haven't even seen her play yet. Don't be absurd, of course Serena has a chance. Certainly more of a chance now than she did when they last played on clay in 2007.

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

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Serena will win in Miami Rome Madrid , while Justine will continue their head to head trend in the slams.
Justine doesn't play Rome (except for that one time Serena nailed her in the final), call yourself a fan

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(1)A lot is being made of the record Serena has vs Sharapova. It is being used as THE reason she will win again lol. Good thing we have players like Tomas Berdych (who had an even worse record vs Nadal) to remind us of the fallacy of this nonsense logic.
(2)You stans may as well sleep well tonight because tomorrow the a replay of Lucie's winning moment over and over again will haunt your dreams for weeks to come
(3)The stars have aligned perfectly for the upset of the 21st century. All the best Garbine
(4) There is no path to victory for Williams.Keys wins in straight easy sets.
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I hope both Serena and Venus win all their matches against Henin.

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

as i had stated in another thread, i see it being a non rivalry unless 1 of 3 things happen:

1. serena decides to put 100%, i.e. winnerena, into non slam events
2. they only meet in slams
3. serena treats jh with the same mentality she seems to have with masha

not taking anything away from jh, but even if you deny it, serena said herself she turns up for slams and a few tier Is miami ...so #1 is less likely to happen than 2 or 3 imo and therefore unless those last 2 happen it could turn out to be uninteresting

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

The far more interesting rivalry with Dementieva heats up.

And Lena grows back her bangs.

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only when serena does her punishment and declares that exhos count...and that lena's bangs are better

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Re: How Will the Serena/Justine Henin Rivalry Evolve, in 2010?

The only upside to Kim and Justine is they haven't been on the circuit for a while so a player like Serena has to get back accustomed to their game. It seems people are acting like Kim and Justine went home and retired without any plans to come back.

As soon as Kim had her baby she was training and plotting. Her strategy worked but I guarantee you Serena will be ready for her next time they meet up. Justine isn't fooling anyone either, she took an extended break off like Kim not to get her education but to get a break and retool her game.

I believe Serena will have some difficulty at first but like all challenges she'll step up. It should make for an interesting rivalry and I really think it's great that Serena has more competition. This will just motivate her more than ever.

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Serena is about to rock Justine's world.

she's going to thrash her in australia. you heard it here first.

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