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Womens Tennis - Is It So Hard To Believe Cheating Goes On?

Ok watching Caro just makes me think she has at least exaggerated her injury, if not flat out lied about it and its seriousness. I personally cant see how she can put her full weight on it striking tennis balls if it's as bad as made out?

This thread is not about Caro in particular (though it is her 'injury' that got me thinking), just that many posters on this board just will not accept that these girls do on occasion cheat, lie and push the rules. Every sport has it share of cheats, recent outings of rugby players deliberately fanking injuries with blood packets and a F1 driver deliberately crashing his car, just goes to show how far some already go in other sports. Yet there are many that still wont admit bartoli takes tactically deliberate time outs, for so called 'injuries'.

I honestly find it harder to believe the WTA is as 'white as white' as some would have you believe, than to believe certain players bend the rules and inturn cheat. With all the money on the line and the huge points, would it not be simpley nieve to think that some players don't on occasion 'cheat'.

To show im not biased i think chakvetadze did just this at wimbledon this year, she took a medical timeout in the 3rd set of her match with lisicki. To me i really don't think her arm warranted a timeout, but having lead and served for the match in the 2nd set and then going down a break in the 3rd, i feel she both took the timeout to try and calm herself and to use something to blame. Some may say she was just using the rules to her advantage or that she was genuinely injured, but in a sport so big and with so much on the line im willing to admit that cheating and rule bending goes on, are you?

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The Caro fans are coming....


And yes I agree, of course people do that. :cough: MJMS, Juju, Marion.
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erm .... no, its not hard. I Want to Believe.

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And yes I agree, of course people do that. :cough: MJMS, Juju, Marion.

it was not directed at caro or her fans, but i think she has deffiantely bent the rules.

it just gets to me that poster on here put players on pedastals, when like us normal people they are swayed by money, winning ect to do things that morally we know ourselves are not right.

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It is not surprising. I shudder what to think what would happen if these girls called their own lines.

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It is not surprising. I shudder what to think what would happen if these girls called their own lines.
you should see some of the local junior tournaments where they call their own lines, then the parents get involved and it can get ugly

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I was saying that yesterday in the livescoring thread. It was pretty obvious that Caro wasn't injured by the way she was stepping into the ball and transfering her weight; also her movement looks pretty fine.
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I was saying that yesterday in the livescoring thread. It was pretty obvious that Caro wasn't injured by the way she was stepping into the ball and transfering her weight; also her movement looks pretty fine.
yep, It's the fact that shes pivitting (sp?) on the leg so easily, plus it's the one she lands on after serving. i just cant imagine anyone with a hamstring strain being able to do that.

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it may and probably does...BUT i think what we have to be aware of is the parents over exaggerating injuries as in caro's case (since that is the first you mentioned)...i think caro probably felt tightness in the leg and it probably needs stretching....her father calls it something more extravagent than it is...yesterday to begin she wasn't moving well and was being cautious, but i think as the muscle itself warmed up it was fine...

in other cases i think there's a tendency to not believe that players are injured unless they are hobbling around on crutches, in wheel chairs or bed ridden....

with regards to timeouts...yes players do use them to psych out opponents...i think bartoli is guilty of it, elena does it and i've seen maria do it as recently as that us open match with oudin...since it's not against the rules, and you can't say for sure a player isn't injured, umpires are only left with the option of controlling when players take them (only before your serve etc)...

players also have to becareful because taking those timeouts can work against you sometimes you may give your opponent the extra time they needed to catch their breath, time to calm down and strategise etc...

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Lena is all sweetness and light and cuddly adorableness, aside from her trimming her bangs.

The rest of them are cheating skanks, even the other ones I like.

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it was not directed at caro or her fans, but i think she has deffiantely bent the rules.

it just gets to me that poster on here put players on pedastals, when like us normal people they are swayed by money, winning ect to do things that morally we know ourselves are not right.
Yeah, I know, but they'll come...

And yeah I know x2 , people on here are in denial about A LOT of things.
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The Caro fans are coming....
All 3 of them ?
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Yip - I agree. Lots of players are guilty of it now. Not just injury timeouts, but looking at their player boxes, bathroom breaks. It's farcical at times
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All 3 of them ?
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