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Are you for or against the Bali YEC in Indonesia?

What do you think of the Bali Tournament of Champions? You like the idea? against it? Doesn't care?

I actually like the idea. Some of the people in MTF even wish the ATP has the man version of this tournament.



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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old Oct 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM
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It's a good idea now that Sabine has been included.

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Re: Are you for or against the Bali YEC in Indonesia?

You would think that the tournament is full of mickey mouse queens the way some posters are going on. Bartoli has a slam QF and a premier title, the same for Lisicki. Wickmayer and Stosur have both reached a slam semi. MJMS has been solid at the slams and has pushed a lot of top players. Some of the other players have had decent results. I am looking foward to it.

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This event is a (bad) joke

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The event is a nice idea but it needs different qualifying rules. The field would have been much better if the rule was 'win any title and you're in the race', and fedcup wasn't in the same week.

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Like about 95% of anything Larry Scott implemented into his awful run as CEO, I am against this idea. The WTA as an organization has lost more and more respect from me with each year. There are so many issues I have with the state of the WTA right now as a whole that I could go on and on, but it just saddens me to look at the way things are run now compared to before.

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Good idea but not with people who don't win internationals or even do well in international events getting WCs.
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Like about 95% of anything Larry Scott implemented into his awful run as CEO, I am against this idea. The WTA as an organization has lost more and more respect from me with each year. There are so many issues I have with the state of the WTA right now as a whole that I could go on and on, but it just saddens me to look at the way things are run now compared to before.
That's funny because the general consensus outside of wtaworld is that Larry Scott was brilliant, and I happen to agree. How tennis, particularly women's tennis, is on a financial upswing in the middle of a recession when a woman who looks like Shreck and doesn't win grand slam titles has been number one for most of the year is a miracle of Larry's impeccable marketing and network leveraging skills.

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The idea of the tournament, i.e. a masters for up and coming players, is AWESOME

What they did of that tournament is not really good IMHO

First of all it shouldn't be the same week as fed cup final,
Second there should be an age limit
Third of all it should be for players who have improved over the last 12 months and are real up and coming players

So for example for this year we would have a field with players like Wickmayer, Oudin, Pavlyuchenkova, Cirstea, Lisicki, etc...

Maybe also award a WC for the previous' year Junior world champion

That IMHO would be a good tournament...

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I love the idea. Of course, if i could see it on tv, it would be better. The sponsors should like it because you are helping to make stars, all women have won tournaments, and it is round robin, so fans get to see their favorites more than once.

The fact that the GS winners have to lighten their workloads after deep runs puts more importance on making names in smaller tournaments. So they need to be rewarded.
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That's funny because the general consensus outside of wtaworld is that Larry Scott was brilliant, and I happen to agree. How tennis, particularly women's tennis, is on a financial upswing in the middle of a recession when a woman who looks like Shreck and doesn't win grand slam titles has been number one for most of the year is a miracle of Larry's impeccable marketing and network leveraging skills.
They have have financial success right now, but you also have to consider that a lot of the deals with sponsors have been made prior to the actual recession. It's not as though they landed the deal with Sony Ericsson to be their head sponsor this year with Safina as the face of the tour...And while I do agree that financial stability is important, I think it's a sad trade off to get that from holding tournaments in Dubai etc. and see empty stands at what is supposed to be a world class event.

Players are forced to play tournaments they don't want to play, even when they are injured. Fans are expected to buy tickets based on what is often times, false advertising (all you have to do is look at the posters with players not even competing on the signs)...And why is that? Because the WTA tries to restrict fans from seeing updated entry lists so that they can hold onto the belief that Serena, Venus, Sharapova etc. are playing, even weeks after they have actually withdrawn from an event.

They want to brag about players now meeting their commitments...But at what cost? No one seems to string together any consistent results right now, players like Wozniacki and Zvonareva show up at mandatory events trying to play through illness and injury so they don't get penalized by the tour.

What Larry Scott has done is tried to turn the WTA into the ATP, and it seems as though they are now continuing down the route of merging them closer and closer together...And this upsets me, because the WTA *should* be able to hold its own, and fans often suffer for this because television favours showing mens matches and excluding the women.

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The event is a nice idea but it needs different qualifying rules. The field would have been much better if the rule was 'win any title and you're in the race', and fedcup wasn't in the same week.
I agree!

I actually love the idea, I just think some of the qualifying rules are a little bit padokey lokey. At the same time, they are trying to encourage some girls to play more international tournaments, which can be good for the int'l tournaments, though not necessarily the best for the girls who don't win int'l tournaments but win premieres.

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I think it's a good idea. It's a platform to showcase the game in a way so not only top players get promoted.

It's probably the only change I've liked the last few years, though
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